tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!) 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher Andrew Stacey comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (10582) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=10582#Comment_10582 2010-11-12T00:31:11-08:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Andrew Stacey http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/4/ For those interested, the tex.SX site has now launched, with a snazzy new design. http://tex.stackexchange.com For those interested, the tex.SX site has now launched, with a snazzy new design.

http://tex.stackexchange.com

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VP comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (8007) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=8007#Comment_8007 2010-08-04T23:43:53-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 VP http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/238/ I vaguely recall some objections to prominently featuring faq to new users or checklists including "Is this homework?" etc as a condition of posting a questions, on the grounds that those ... I vaguely recall some objections to prominently featuring faq to new users or checklists including "Is this homework?" etc as a condition of posting a questions, on the grounds that those features may be annoying to serious mathematicians. But how come having a near equivalent of that on every page (including recent questions and answers), directed at everyone, is kosher?

I have almost learned to mentally filter out the annoying reddish strip at the top of the screen, but whenever I fail, I can't help remarking to myself that I will not like to see "lower level MO": if anything, I'd like to see MO that is higher level. If you want to advertise new sites, perhaps, just posting a neutral message like "Two new stackexchange sites [address] and [address] have opened", on the front page only, would have been better.

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7983) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7983#Comment_7983 2010-08-03T16:46:26-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Anton Geraschenko http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/2/ Given the support (and lack of objection) to a system message with links, I've posted a system message linking to tex.SE and math.SE (due to expire in three days). I tried to avoid sounding like ... Given the support (and lack of objection) to a system message with links, I've posted a system message linking to tex.SE and math.SE (due to expire in three days). I tried to avoid sounding like somebody is paying me to post the links, but might have failed.

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Mariano comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7982) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7982#Comment_7982 2010-08-03T16:18:33-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Mariano http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/61/ @Anton, I love it :) You are right that the related questions on question pages is considerably more useful. Maybe you could hide those three things in the sidebar and see if someone ... @Anton, I love it :) You are right that the related questions on question pages is considerably more useful. Maybe you could hide those three things in the sidebar and see if someone complains?

(@WillieWong, yup, sorry for parasitising (?) the thread!)

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7981) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7981#Comment_7981 2010-08-03T16:00:16-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Anton Geraschenko http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/2/ @Mariano: yes, the sidebar is pretty noisy. I don't ever look at recent badges or recent tags. The "How to write math" occupies what is meant to be an ad space, so it is insensitive to ... @Mariano: yes, the sidebar is pretty noisy. I don't ever look at recent badges or recent tags. The "How to write math" occupies what is meant to be an ad space, so it is insensitive to whether there's an editor on the page ... I guess I can hide it with javascript on pages without an editor, but there's no way to get it to actually not load. Would it actually help the homepage look cleaner if we removed that sidebar content? I feel like people aren't bothered by material that's not at the top of the sidebar. To get a preview, paste this into your location bar:

javascript:$("#recent-tags,#recent-badges,#sidebar-bottom").hide();void(0);

Presumably the "related questions" sidebar (on individual question pages) is more useful than it is clutter. I think I've clicked through it fruitfully on occasion and I don't remember ever being annoyed by it. It also pushes the "How to write math" sidebar down, so that it's closer to where you might actually want to write math.

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Scott Morrison comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7980) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7980#Comment_7980 2010-08-03T15:15:33-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Scott Morrison http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/3/ Yes, I think we should put a banner up for a few days or a week. Yes, I think we should put a banner up for a few days or a week.

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WillieWong comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7979) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7979#Comment_7979 2010-08-03T14:01:19-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 WillieWong http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/288/ That's a fair point. I withdraw my initial skepticism on the timing and now support the inclusion of those sites in the FAQ, or somewhere appropriate. That's a fair point. I withdraw my initial skepticism on the timing and now support the inclusion of those sites in the FAQ, or somewhere appropriate.

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Andrew Stacey comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7978) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7978#Comment_7978 2010-08-03T13:48:52-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Andrew Stacey http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/4/ I imagine that when tex/math.SE get their proper domain names then all the old links will still point there and there'll be some fancy URL rewriting to ensure that everything acts as it should, so I ... I imagine that when tex/math.SE get their proper domain names then all the old links will still point there and there'll be some fancy URL rewriting to ensure that everything acts as it should, so I see no harm and considerable benefit from announcing early and linking early. After all, we want these sites to thrive if only to take the questions from MO that we don't want there!

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WillieWong comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7976) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7976#Comment_7976 2010-08-03T13:45:36-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 WillieWong http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/288/ @Mariano: maybe you should bring this up in a new thread? @Mariano: maybe you should bring this up in a new thread?

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WillieWong comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7975) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7975#Comment_7975 2010-08-03T13:45:09-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 WillieWong http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/288/ But perhaps we should wait until tex/math.SE stabilizes? At the very least, I am under the impression that at some point past public beta, those sites will move to a different and more permanent ... But perhaps we should wait until tex/math.SE stabilizes? At the very least, I am under the impression that at some point past public beta, those sites will move to a different and more permanent domain, instead of their current status as sub-domains of SE.

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Andrew Stacey comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7967) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7967#Comment_7967 2010-08-03T10:16:33-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Andrew Stacey http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/4/ To clarify: the original suggestion was for a emporary banner, may be a day or two. I'd certainly like to see both tex.SE and math.SE in the list of "alternative sites" in the FAQ, and ... To clarify: the original suggestion was for a emporary banner, may be a day or two.

I'd certainly like to see both tex.SE and math.SE in the list of "alternative sites" in the FAQ, and given that they are somewhat closer to MO in style if nothing else, I'd vote for them having links somewhere discrete on the main page.

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Mariano comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7964) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7964#Comment_7964 2010-08-03T09:49:04-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Mariano http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/61/ On a related note... isn't the sidebar quite noisy currently? Does anyone use the list of recent tags? Can that least and the list of awarded badges be moved to some other 'News' page? Why is there a ... On a related note... isn't the sidebar quite noisy currently? Does anyone use the list of recent tags? Can that least and the list of awarded badges be moved to some other 'News' page? Why is there a box explaining how to write math on the main page, on which one cannot write math?

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Andy Putman comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7963) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7963#Comment_7963 2010-08-03T09:44:55-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Andy Putman http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/113/ @Anton : I think it would very useful to have banner or sidebar links to tex.SE and math.SE. Probably the sidebar would be less distracting. Anton Geraschenko comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7961) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7961#Comment_7961 2010-08-03T09:43:01-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Anton Geraschenko http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/2/ Andrew brought up a good question by email: should we have a banner/sidebar link to tex.SE (and/or math.SE) on MO? I have no objection to having such a link up for a few days or a week, but I want to ... Andrew brought up a good question by email: should we have a banner/sidebar link to tex.SE (and/or math.SE) on MO? I have no objection to having such a link up for a few days or a week, but I want to get a sense of whether other people would find it annoying before actually posting it.

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Andrew Stacey comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7957) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7957#Comment_7957 2010-08-03T08:54:13-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Andrew Stacey http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/4/ @Willie: don't tell them that! Hmm, but perhaps it's worth listing a select few of the questions. You can learn: How to create posters in LaTeX How to encourage TeX as a homework medium Why is [ ... @Willie: don't tell them that!

Hmm, but perhaps it's worth listing a select few of the questions. You can learn:

  1. How to create posters in LaTeX
  2. How to encourage TeX as a homework medium
  3. Why is [ … ] preferable to $$?
  4. non-kludgey left subscripts
  5. How can I get an underbrace and an overbrace to partially overlap in an equation?
  6. Embedding LaTeX equations into a webpage

and that's just for starters. You can also learn about the difference between \def and \newcommand, how to check for optional arguments (something that'd be useful here!), and get a few sneak previews of what LaTeX3 will be like.

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WillieWong comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7956) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7956#Comment_7956 2010-08-03T08:48:41-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 WillieWong http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/288/ @Andrew: Ah, you beat me to it. @Everyone else: beware, you can waste way too much time reading the questions and answers and learning about neat tricks on that site. @Andrew: Ah, you beat me to it.

@Everyone else: beware, you can waste way too much time reading the questions and answers and learning about neat tricks on that site.

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Andrew Stacey comments on "TeX/LaTeX site now in public beta!" (7954) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/577/texlatex-site-now-in-public-beta/?Focus=7954#Comment_7954 2010-08-03T08:36:25-07:00 2018-11-04T23:23:41-08:00 Andrew Stacey http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/4/ The TeX/LaTeX site based on the StackOverflow model is now in public beta mode. That means that anyone can participate. So head on over and ask all those TeX questions that have been annoying you ... The TeX/LaTeX site based on the StackOverflow model is now in public beta mode. That means that anyone can participate. So head on over and ask all those TeX questions that have been annoying you since you first learnt that latex can be fun.

The web address is: http://tex.stackexchange.com

The meta site is: http://meta.tex.stackexchange.com (where, of course, I expect everyone to vote for my suggestion for the site name).

As if further enticement were needed, let me point out that a couple of the people there actually write packages and are involved in the LaTeX3 project, so there are experts there as well as the usual weirdos like yours truly.

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