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Anton Geraschenko comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1622)

Anton Geraschenko — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:57:47 -0800

@Pete: actually, nobody (not even moderators) can see who has voted to close until the question is closed.

Pete L. Clark comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1621)

Pete L. Clark — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:35:16 -0800

@Michael: Don't worry, you don't have to do it!

Anyway, it requires five votes from non-moderators to close, and a user with rep in [3K,10K) cannot see who else has voted to close specifically, only the number of votes to close.

Michael Lugo comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1619)

Michael Lugo — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:56:13 -0800

@Ilya: 10k is deleting closed questions. 3k is voting to close. (See the FAQ.) In any case, whatever it is I get to do when I reach 3k, I'm not sure that I feel competent to do it.

Anton Geraschenko comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1617)

Anton Geraschenko — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:10:05 -0800

@Ilya: I think it takes 3 votes from 10k+ rep users to delete a question, and the question must already be closed.

Ilya Nikokoshev comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1616)

Ilya Nikokoshev — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:49:59 -0800

@Michael, MO has deletion of questions as a 10k ability.

Michael Lugo comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1610)

Michael Lugo — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:01:30 -0800

My reputation is currently between 2k and 3k. I agree that they're in the right order. When I got to 2k I immediately knew what to do when editing posts -- keep in mind that most edits are probably fixing formatting, grammar, etc. and don't actually change the content of the question. I have no idea which questions to vote for to close when I get to that point. I feel that one has to have spent longer at a site to know what to close than what to edit. (For an extreme case, compare Wikipedia, where anybody can edit, but deleting articles (the analogue of our closing questions, perhaps?) is limited to administrators.)

Scott Morrison comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1604)

Scott Morrison — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:45:10 -0800

And anyway, I'd strongly disagree. I like closing where it is (at around 3000), as it seems we now have quite a few closers, with more and more coming. On the other hand, I'd like the editing threshold made much lower. I think people "get the hang" of editing much faster than learning the community norms for closing.

Anton Geraschenko comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1577)

Anton Geraschenko — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:44:21 -0800

An edit is trivial to roll back, so you actually need everybody with editing powers to agree with you. Also, it does make sense to encourage people to fix a bad-but-salvageable post rather than voting to close it. Anyway, right now I can't change those rep thresholds, so it's a moot point. They'll probably be configurable by the time SE comes out of beta.

Harry Gindi comments on "Swap the 2000 and 3000 rep abilities?" (1572)

Harry Gindi — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:51:33 -0800

It seems like the ability to vote to close is less powerful than the ability to edit, so is there a reason why they're in this order? Voting to close requires five people to agree with you, while editing posts is a unilateral action.