tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (Is it possible to merge users?) Sun, 04 Nov 2018 13:39:57 -0800 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 & Feed Publisher Tom Leinster comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3774) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3774#Comment_3774 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3774#Comment_3774 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:43:12 -0800 Tom Leinster I agree totally with Ilya.

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Ilya Grigoriev comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3761) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3761#Comment_3761 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3761#Comment_3761 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:41:20 -0800 Ilya Grigoriev Anton Geraschenko comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3753) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3753#Comment_3753 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3753#Comment_3753 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:02:48 -0800 Anton Geraschenko @Qiaochu: Yes, but it would be a fair amount of work/luck and there's little motivation to do so, since any damage could be quickly undone. There are two malicious situations I can think of:

  1. I'm a bad guy who wants to make is look like a registered user is posting junk. So I make an unregistered user with the same name (and I guess the email address the other user used) and start posting junk. Then a moderator comes along and merges my junk user into somebody's registered user. Now it really looks like they were posting garbage. It's hard to imagine the motivation for this. People flagging posts as spam/offensive would reduce the damage. Not only that, if the account does get merged into the "target user", that user will own all the posts, so she can simply delete them.
  2. I'm a bad guy who wants to steal the account of a non-registered user. So I register a user with the same name (and guess the email address the other user used). Then a moderator comes along and merges their unregistered account into my registered account. Now I change the name and email to my own and I get all the credit for their posts. It's easier to imagine the motivation here, but again the damage can be easily handled. As soon as a moderator becomes aware of what happened (I imagine the "target user" or somebody would send an email), he can simply give control of the account to the rightful party by editing the OpenID in the user's profile.

Basically, my poll question is whether the (I think remote) possibility of one of these attacks and the hassle of dealing with them outweighs the annoyance of people accidentally creating multiple accounts.

Disclaimer: If I have stronger evidence that two users ought to be merged (e.g. a registered and unregistered account have the same name, email, and IP), then I have no reservations about merging them. If you object to that, please say so and I'll stop doing it.

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Qiaochu Yuan comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3751) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3751#Comment_3751 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3751#Comment_3751 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:34:31 -0800 Qiaochu Yuan Scott Morrison comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3734) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3734#Comment_3734 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3734#Comment_3734 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:26:26 -0800 Scott Morrison I vote for pre-approving merging if real names and email addresses match.

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3729) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3729#Comment_3729 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3729#Comment_3729 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:53:32 -0800 Anton Geraschenko

Poll Question: if somebody has an orphaned cookie-based account and a registered account under the same name and email address, is it safe to merge the accounts without confirming via email?

It's quite easy for me to produce a list of all users in this situation, and I'm occasionally in the mood for tidying up, so I could just merge a few now and then. Any time I've emailed people about it (usually because it came up on meta that they have a duplicate account), they've always responded positively. Emailing people is boring and tedious; I'd rather have duplicate accounts floating around than do it. But merging users is an irreversible procedure, so I'd like to be really sure that nobody is going to feel violated if I merge their accounts without asking them. Can you imagine a situation where somebody could reasonably want to keep their cookie-based account separate from their registered account? (Remember I'm assuming they're using the same name and email, ruling out the possibility that they are using the cookie-based account to post anonymously sometimes.)

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Jonas Meyer comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3728) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3728#Comment_3728 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3728#Comment_3728 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:02:39 -0800 Jonas Meyer Anton Geraschenko comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3726) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3726#Comment_3726 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3726#Comment_3726 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:59:46 -0800 Anton Geraschenko A couple of days ago, I grepped the database to see how many duplicate users we have (answer: about 150 people have more than one account). I emailed a handful of the "worst offenders" to remind them that it's possible to register; there's not much point in merging unregistered users since more of them will just keep being created. If any of the other moderators are really bored, I can send you the list of duplicates and the form letter I use to explain how/why to register.

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Scott Morrison comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3724) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3724#Comment_3724 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3724#Comment_3724 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:20:28 -0800 Scott Morrison And I've now merged Eric's.

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Scott Morrison comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3723) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3723#Comment_3723 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3723#Comment_3723 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:34:10 -0800 Scott Morrison I've asked Eric if he'd like his accounts merged. It seems Victor's have already been merged.

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Kevin Lin comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3715) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3715#Comment_3715 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3715#Comment_3715 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:59:34 -0800 Kevin Lin I've noticed two Eric Zaslows. Probably they are the same person.

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Ilya Nikokoshev comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3710) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3710#Comment_3710 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3710#Comment_3710 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:20:55 -0800 Ilya Nikokoshev Perhaps this thread should be sticky?

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Mariano comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3679) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3679#Comment_3679 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3679#Comment_3679 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:47:19 -0800 Mariano There are two instances of Victor Ostrik around :P

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3615) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3615#Comment_3615 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3615#Comment_3615 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:16:50 -0800 Anton Geraschenko @pavlov: done. Let me know if you have any other problems.

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Dmitri Pavlov comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3609) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3609#Comment_3609 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3609#Comment_3609 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:37:54 -0800 Dmitri Pavlov http://mathoverflow.net/users/330/dmitri-pavlov
http://mathoverflow.net/users/402/dmitri-pavlov

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Daniel comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3447) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3447#Comment_3447 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3447#Comment_3447 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:16:47 -0800 Daniel Anton Geraschenko comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3446) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3446#Comment_3446 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3446#Comment_3446 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:08:02 -0800 Anton Geraschenko Merged! (In case you're worried I'm merging willy-nilly, the two users had the identical email addresses, usernames, and IPs, and the IP is also shared by the Daniel who started this thread.)

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Mark Meckes comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3444) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3444#Comment_3444 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3444#Comment_3444 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:11:55 -0800 Mark Meckes Sonia Balagopalan comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3443) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3443#Comment_3443 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3443#Comment_3443 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:38:30 -0800 Sonia Balagopalan Harald Hanche-Olsen comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3440) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3440#Comment_3440 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3440#Comment_3440 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:02:17 -0800 Harald Hanche-Olsen A moderator can. One will probably read this, come along and do it for you.

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Daniel comments on "Is it possible to merge users?" (3437) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3437#Comment_3437 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/249/is-it-possible-to-merge-users/?Focus=3437#Comment_3437 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:25:00 -0800 Daniel