tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (A reputation table bug) 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher Gerry Myerson comments on "A reputation table bug" (11206) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11206#Comment_11206 2010-12-02T14:56:39-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Gerry Myerson http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/370/ I couldn't help noticing on the screen shot that started this discussion Anton's reputation is an exact power of 2, as are his gold and bronze badges. He needs 6 more silver to bring him up to 32 (or ... Anton Geraschenko comments on "A reputation table bug" (11200) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11200#Comment_11200 2010-12-02T07:36:05-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Anton Geraschenko http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/2/ It makes me wonder if the bug extends to applying a single upvote to Andy to both Andy and Franz. You can verify that this isn't the case by looking at their reputation graphs and picking a very ...

It makes me wonder if the bug extends to applying a single upvote to Andy to both Andy and Franz.

You can verify that this isn't the case by looking at their reputation graphs and picking a very small window of time to see exactly where they've been getting their rep.

It seems that Franz has accepted an answer, thereby getting two points. Think of the sharks, Franz!

I figure there's about a dozen of us in this thread -- so about 10 Anton-downovtes each ought to do the trick.

Much more efficient way to do it is to flag posts as spam. A total of 12 spam votes on two non-CW posts (one flag on each from six users) does 224 points of damage. Then you're only 15 more downvotes away.

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Cam McLeman comments on "A reputation table bug" (11199) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11199#Comment_11199 2010-12-02T06:05:45-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Cam McLeman http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/355/ I think we need to make this a more controlled experiment. What we need to do is downvote 254 points from Anton so that he's at the same rep level. I figure there's about a dozen of us in this ... I think we need to make this a more controlled experiment. What we need to do is downvote 254 points from Anton so that he's at the same rep level. I figure there's about a dozen of us in this thread -- so about 10 Anton-downovtes each ought to do the trick.

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Gerry Myerson comments on "A reputation table bug" (11197) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11197#Comment_11197 2010-12-02T00:39:09-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Gerry Myerson http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/370/ Has anyone ever seen Franz and Andy in the same place at the same time? Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11196) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11196#Comment_11196 2010-12-01T22:37:33-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ That is really interesting, as when I just looked, they matched again. This has happened at 7908, then 7928, 7938, now 7948. It makes me wonder if the bug extends to applying a single upvote to Andy ... Hailong Dao comments on "A reputation table bug" (11194) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11194#Comment_11194 2010-12-01T21:52:21-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Hailong Dao http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/120/ @Andy: so I have to upvote you every time I want to see Franz's profile (like I just did!) ? That's neat (-: @Andy: so I have to upvote you every time I want to see Franz's profile (like I just did!) ? That's neat (-:

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Andy Putman comments on "A reputation table bug" (11185) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11185#Comment_11185 2010-12-01T17:18:45-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Andy Putman http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/113/ Sshh Anton! Let's keep the plans a surprise. Everyone else will find out soon enough... Anton Geraschenko comments on "A reputation table bug" (11184) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11184#Comment_11184 2010-12-01T17:04:34-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Anton Geraschenko http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/2/ [redacted] Edit: Andy's right. I should've just kept my mouth shut. [redacted]

Edit: Andy's right. I should've just kept my mouth shut.

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Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11183) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11183#Comment_11183 2010-12-01T16:45:56-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ Are there going to be sharks with laser beams attached to their heads? Andy Putman comments on "A reputation table bug" (11182) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11182#Comment_11182 2010-12-01T16:38:45-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Andy Putman http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/113/ The sinister "phase 2" of my plans now can begin... Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11176) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11176#Comment_11176 2010-12-01T11:41:02-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ Wednesday, December 1, 11:39 Pacific time, the bug is back, Andy Putman has eaten Franz Lemmermeyer.Edit: yes, I went back and just typed Franz in the User search field, he exists and has the same ...
Edit: yes, I went back and just typed Franz in the User search field, he exists and has the same number of points as Andy.]]>
Harry Gindi comments on "A reputation table bug" (11161) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11161#Comment_11161 2010-11-30T11:28:34-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ It was Leonid, although I don't remember his last name. It seemed like he just got PO'd about something and left forever. It was Leonid, although I don't remember his last name. It seemed like he just got PO'd about something and left forever.

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HMŠ comments on "A reputation table bug" (11160) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11160#Comment_11160 2010-11-30T10:56:22-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 HMŠ http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/407/ @Willie: and if anyone really wants to know who 002 is, there are always searchable MO dumps (searching his ID number in users.xml does the trick). Although I think that wouldn't be too polite (I did ...
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Jonas Meyer comments on "A reputation table bug" (11158) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11158#Comment_11158 2010-11-30T10:50:25-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Jonas Meyer http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/87/ I believe that 002 deliberately got their score to 2. I don't know the full details of how it worked, but I noticed at the time that the user, after deleting all unaccepted answers, community ...
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Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11157) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11157#Comment_11157 2010-11-30T10:50:01-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ Live and learn. There is a user name Snuffleupagus or related spelling who posted here, saying that it had answered under various temporary names and changed email addresses so as to avoid the ... WillieWong comments on "A reputation table bug" (11156) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11156#Comment_11156 2010-11-30T10:44:08-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 WillieWong http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/288/ I think I have a vague memory of that individual. He also deleted all his comments. In two of the questions he asked you can find a clue to his identity from the comments other people left. I also ... I think I have a vague memory of that individual. He also deleted all his comments. In two of the questions he asked you can find a clue to his identity from the comments other people left.

I also have a vague memory of a discussion on Meta on the distribution of of Rep score for the low numbers (say, < 50). Ah, here it is.

EDIT: And in fact, user 002 was discussed in that thread.

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Cam McLeman comments on "A reputation table bug" (11155) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11155#Comment_11155 2010-11-30T10:22:03-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Cam McLeman http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/355/ Very peculiar about 002! While in principal it's easy to see how to get 2 points (an accepted answer and some downvotes), it doesn't look like that's the case here. Very many questions and accepted ... Very peculiar about 002! While in principal it's easy to see how to get 2 points (an accepted answer and some downvotes), it doesn't look like that's the case here. Very many questions and accepted answers, but all community-wiki, earning no points. It looks like 002 amassed about 1300 points, then community-wiki'd all of them. Ooh, in fact, his reputation history chart shows him at -500 reputation, so the reputation of 2 was almost certainly an artifice of having an even number of positive reputation points, and having an even number subtracted when he/she wiki'd, and the software refusing to reduce the current reputation to 0 or below.

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Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11154) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11154#Comment_11154 2010-11-30T09:34:10-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ I have done Bruce a disservice. In my last comment last night, initially I suggested that we have somebody upvote something of Andy's and see what happened. Then I thought that wasn't funny and ...
In my last comment last night, initially I suggested that we have somebody upvote something of Andy's and see what happened. Then I thought that wasn't funny and tended to curb the illusion, so I edited to what is there now. Then it hit me that "power" was better than "powers" but I was in bed.

I don't expect anything, but while matches at the high end of reputation are not so common, there should be page after page of usernames with rep 1, so I will check that.

EDIT: 100 points currently at about page 45, 1 point starts page 94, in between there are many scores with several pages worth such as 11. No sign of repeats. I didn't see how to go to a page number I type in, perhaps there is none, or none for my browser. One user with exactly 2 points, not sure how to accomplish that. And the username was 002.]]>
WillieWong comments on "A reputation table bug" (11153) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11153#Comment_11153 2010-11-30T09:16:32-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 WillieWong http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/288/ @Will: I don't think that's the time-line. I first saw this thread after Bruce's comment but before Cam's. And I checked the Users page and, lo-and-behold, Andy appears twice, and I thought Bruce was ... @Will: I don't think that's the time-line. I first saw this thread after Bruce's comment but before Cam's. And I checked the Users page and, lo-and-behold, Andy appears twice, and I thought Bruce was making a sort of in-joke.

Then some minutes later I saw Cam's post and realize that something screwy is going on, and when I went back to look at the Users list, Franz has been revealed. So I am pretty sure Bruce managed to solve the puzzle before it became trivial.

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Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11152) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11152#Comment_11152 2010-11-30T08:41:48-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ I just logged on, clicked on Users first and saw how Andy and Franz were now separate by 20 points. My guess is that the first (evil) Andy got two votes overnight and the names corrected when the ...
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WillieWong comments on "A reputation table bug" (11151) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11151#Comment_11151 2010-11-30T08:30:00-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 WillieWong http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/288/ The second Andy has now been revealed. @Bruce: how did you manage to figure that out? The second Andy has now been revealed.

@Bruce: how did you manage to figure that out?

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Cam McLeman comments on "A reputation table bug" (11150) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11150#Comment_11150 2010-11-30T07:58:47-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Cam McLeman http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/355/ Wow, nice catch! So I guess the software has a bug if two people on the cusp of the page-turn have the same reputation? @Will: Identity theft, in this case Franz', is a pretty good sign of evil. Wow, nice catch!

So I guess the software has a bug if two people on the cusp of the page-turn have the same reputation?

@Will: Identity theft, in this case Franz', is a pretty good sign of evil.

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Bruce Arnold comments on "A reputation table bug" (11149) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11149#Comment_11149 2010-11-30T07:40:49-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Bruce Arnold http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/178/ The real name of the second Andy is Franz. Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11139) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11139#Comment_11139 2010-11-29T22:09:30-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ Later Edit: how do we know he is using his power for evil? Gerry Myerson comments on "A reputation table bug" (11138) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11138#Comment_11138 2010-11-29T21:56:37-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Gerry Myerson http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/370/ On a mathematics website where I have more reputation than Richard Stanley, Andreas Blass, and other notables, anything is possible. Ryan Budney comments on "A reputation table bug" (11137) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11137#Comment_11137 2010-11-29T21:50:18-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Ryan Budney http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/107/ Andy might have two accounts with the same name and exactly the same rep. He keeps one on the 1st page and another on the 2nd, so that it's difficult to spot his evil genius. Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11136) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11136#Comment_11136 2010-11-29T21:20:21-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ His CV has his telephone with a 510 area code. I think that's suspicious. theojf comments on "A reputation table bug" (11135) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11135#Comment_11135 2010-11-29T21:12:56-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 theojf http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/96/ I'm getting the same thing. So the effect is at least 45 minutes robust. It only seems to be this one case on pages 1-2 --- e.g., Jim (rep=5031, 5 silvers, 28 bronzes) does not appear at the top of ... I'm getting the same thing. So the effect is at least 45 minutes robust. It only seems to be this one case on pages 1-2 --- e.g., Jim (rep=5031, 5 silvers, 28 bronzes) does not appear at the top of page 3.

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Ryan Budney comments on "A reputation table bug" (11134) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11134#Comment_11134 2010-11-29T21:07:16-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Ryan Budney http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/107/ Andy Putman is a quantum topologist. Will Jagy comments on "A reputation table bug" (11133) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11133#Comment_11133 2010-11-29T20:43:58-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Will Jagy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/208/ I don't believe it is a bug in the usual sense. My first guess is that the reputation table is not Hausdorff. There is a similar example in Munkres Topology about how the Hausdorff condition really ...
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Andrey Rekalo comments on "A reputation table bug" (11132) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/802/a-reputation-table-bug/?Focus=11132#Comment_11132 2010-11-29T20:23:10-08:00 2018-11-04T23:18:46-08:00 Andrey Rekalo http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/267/ I wonder if something similar has been observed before. As I'm posting this, Andy Putman features simultaneously on pp. 1 and 2 of the reputation table ...
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