tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics) 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher François G. Dorais comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6070) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6070#Comment_6070 2010-06-13T10:42:37-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 François G. Dorais http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/144/ Well, according to the rules, three 2000+ users can force community wiki by successively editing the question. Well, according to the rules, three 2000+ users can force community wiki by successively editing the question.

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6069) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6069#Comment_6069 2010-06-13T10:38:11-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ I flagged the post, but it wasn't made CW, and I decided it was better to rewrite it from scratch than let the non-cw one, which everyone objected to, be reopened. I flagged the post, but it wasn't made CW, and I decided it was better to rewrite it from scratch than let the non-cw one, which everyone objected to, be reopened.

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danseetea comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6068) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6068#Comment_6068 2010-06-13T10:36:20-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 danseetea http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/252/ Thanks. Well, given this new (for me) information, I retract most of my earlier criticism of your actions; I still think it would have been better if one could've contacted a moderator so he could ... Thanks. Well, given this new (for me) information, I retract most of my earlier criticism of your actions; I still think it would have been better if one could've contacted a moderator so he could wiki and re-open the question.

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6067) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6067#Comment_6067 2010-06-13T10:29:49-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ Not even the 10000+ users can. Only moderators have that privilege. Not even the 10000+ users can. Only moderators have that privilege.

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danseetea comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6066) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6066#Comment_6066 2010-06-13T10:25:07-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 danseetea http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/252/ Sorry, I didn't know that. I thought anyone with 3000+ could wiki other's questions. Sorry, I didn't know that. I thought anyone with 3000+ could wiki other's questions.

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6065) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6065#Comment_6065 2010-06-13T10:24:07-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ I cannot wiki someone else's question. If you want me to be able to, vote for me in the upcoming MOderator election! I cannot wiki someone else's question. If you want me to be able to, vote for me in the upcoming MOderator election!

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danseetea comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6064) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6064#Comment_6064 2010-06-13T10:19:55-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 danseetea http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/252/ @Harry - I apologize, but I fail to see why you were forced to make a new question, rather than reopen the original one, community-wiki it and change its contents slightly. Are you saying it is bad ... @Harry - I apologize, but I fail to see why you were forced to make a new question, rather than reopen the original one, community-wiki it and change its contents slightly.

Are you saying it is bad mathoverflow ethics to wiki someone else's question? (I am not being cynical; I am asking this seriously. I'm new here.)

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6063) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6063#Comment_6063 2010-06-13T10:16:02-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ @danseetea, my hand was forced by the fact that the old version had four votes to reopen. As you can see if you read the comments, I was reluctant to post it at all. I would have edited the ... @danseetea, my hand was forced by the fact that the old version had four votes to reopen. As you can see if you read the comments, I was reluctant to post it at all.

I would have edited the original question and just reopened it if it had been community wiki, but it wasn't, and the person who asked it did not respond to the calls for it to be made so. I don't understand why you're defending this question when the person who asked it was given every opportunity to fix it.

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Noah Snyder comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6062) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6062#Comment_6062 2010-06-13T10:06:52-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Noah Snyder http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/59/ Although it's certainly conceivable that one could give hard evidence about this question, the fact remains that there were already 5 answers several with multiple upvotes *none* of which gave hard ... danseetea comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6061) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6061#Comment_6061 2010-06-13T10:04:39-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 danseetea http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/252/ [EDITED some time later: I was not aware only moderators can wikify a question; hence I retract most (but not all) of my criticism in this post] I am rather baffled by the chain of events ... [EDITED some time later: I was not aware only moderators can wikify a question; hence I retract most (but not all) of my criticism in this post]

I am rather baffled by the chain of events surrounding the closing and "reopening" of this question.

First, I feel it was unfairly closed. I think it may have been more honest of the closers to wait until the discussion at meta was finished; especially since at least two very respected participants have shown their interest in this question; why were everyone in such a rush to close it before all opinions were expressed?

Second, it had to be community-wikified as soon as possible. Why didn't anyone wiki it? If it had been community-wiki I could (or anyone else could) edit the question so it'd be more along the lines of Harry's "new version".

Third and most important - Harry, you were so eager to close the original question because it was "subjective and argumentative" but the new question is still subjective and still argumentative and for precisely the same reaons the previous question was*. As I've already stated, when asking "who's the last mathematician to have known all of math?", it's IMPLIED you ask about the mathematical development at the era the mathematician lived in (and if you thought this being implied isn't enough, and that it should be more explicit in the question, you could've edited one or two lines in the original question to make this clear). In fact I see the two questions as more or less equivalent (as evidence of this, Wadim Zudilin, who was probably unaware of the original question, commented on your question right after you posted it: "Aren't you asking about who was the last universal mathematician?"). So why did you open a new question rather than simply edit the original one?

*On second thought, your "new" question is likely to get more "discussions" and subjective opinions (which is as far as I understand what the closers were afraid of) than the original question.

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Emerton comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6058) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6058#Comment_6058 2010-06-13T07:06:42-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Emerton http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/103/ I don't understand why people think that it is difficult to have hard evidence about this question. It seems reasonable, as a point of history of math, to (a) roughly enumerate all the fields of ... I don't understand why people think that it is difficult to have hard evidence about this question. It seems reasonable, as a point of history of math, to (a) roughly enumerate all the fields of mathematics at a given time; (b) survey all of a given mathematicians publications; and then (c) see to what extent the topics of their publications cover the existing range of mathematics.

Naively, this will measure pure breadth, rather than depth, of knowledge, and the question probably requires an analysis of both. But the depth of understanding of a given mathematician can be evaluated, for example, by studying the importance of their papers (say as judged by contemporary and later opinions).

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6050) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6050#Comment_6050 2010-06-13T02:30:55-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ I have reposted the question in the suggested form (and with community wiki enabled). Here's a copy of the disclaimer I left on the new post, which explains why I did this: Disclaimer: I am ... I have reposted the question in the suggested form (and with community wiki enabled).

Here's a copy of the disclaimer I left on the new post, which explains why I did this:

Disclaimer:

I am asking this question as an improvement to this question, which should be community wiki. This is in line with the actions taken by Andy Putman in a similar case (cf. meta).

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Qiaochu Yuan comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6048) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6048#Comment_6048 2010-06-13T02:13:28-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Qiaochu Yuan http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/13/ @Scott: Ah, my mistake. I didn't mean it as an insult, either. It's just hard to have any kind of hard evidence about this kind of question. One could ask something like "at what point in ... @Scott: Ah, my mistake. I didn't mean it as an insult, either. It's just hard to have any kind of hard evidence about this kind of question.

One could ask something like "at what point in history did it become impossible for a person to understand most of mathematics?" and get information of roughly the same quality.

That certainly sounds more agreeable.

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6045) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6045#Comment_6045 2010-06-12T23:15:13-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ I feel that if it were revised to reduce the "who was the greatest" tone, I'd be less against it. Same here.

I feel that if it were revised to reduce the "who was the greatest" tone, I'd be less against it.

Same here.

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Jeremy comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6044) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6044#Comment_6044 2010-06-12T21:04:18-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Jeremy http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/234/ @Scott: I did not interpret that as an insult. Also, on speculation about how to improve this question, wouldn't a better way to ask this be: how big is math as a function of time? That would be ...
Also, on speculation about how to improve this question, wouldn't a better way to ask this be: how big is math as a function of time? That would be much easier to compare to how much a person could know, than speculate based on who's your favorite supermathematician.]]>
Scott Carnahan comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6043) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6043#Comment_6043 2010-06-12T20:54:35-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Scott Carnahan http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/73/ Qiaochu, my comment on question 21562 was meant as a statement about our collective ignorance, not as an insult to the people who took the time to answer Negative refraction's question. At least, I ... Qiaochu, my comment on question 21562 was meant as a statement about our collective ignorance, not as an insult to the people who took the time to answer Negative refraction's question. At least, I hope most of the 30+ upvotes came from people who understood it this way. I feel kind of bad now that I see that it could be interpreted as a personal statement.

Regarding the question under consideration, I feel that if it were revised to reduce the "who was the greatest" tone, I'd be less against it. One could ask something like "at what point in history did it become impossible for a person to understand most of mathematics?" and get information of roughly the same quality.

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Noah Snyder comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6039) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6039#Comment_6039 2010-06-12T18:31:24-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Noah Snyder http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/59/ I find the existing answers to this question frustrating as there are no actual arguments just bald assertions. François G. Dorais comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6034) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6034#Comment_6034 2010-06-12T14:12:50-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 François G. Dorais http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/144/ There appears to be confusion between the title and the actual question: Who is the last mathematician who had an understanding of a large proportion of mathematics (at the time they were ... There appears to be confusion between the title and the actual question:

Who is the last mathematician who had an understanding of a large proportion of mathematics (at the time they were alive)?

I don't think the arguments using the "totality of mathematics" apply to this question.

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Steve Huntsman comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6033) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6033#Comment_6033 2010-06-12T14:05:56-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Steve Huntsman http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/110/ I believe the question is a.s. essentially unanswerable for a trivial reason. For most of human history, mathematical centers of activity were widely separated, and mathematicians a.s. would not ... François G. Dorais comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6031) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6031#Comment_6031 2010-06-12T12:53:10-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 François G. Dorais http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/144/ To complete my earlier thought, I don't think the purported non-existence of experts to answer the question invalidates it. This is for the same reason that an open problem is not necessarily an ... To complete my earlier thought, I don't think the purported non-existence of experts to answer the question invalidates it. This is for the same reason that an open problem is not necessarily an invalid MO question. In any case, I don't buy the arguments that no such experts exist since you obviously don't have to be a polymath to recognize one.

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Emerton comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6029) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6029#Comment_6029 2010-06-12T11:51:13-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Emerton http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/103/ Dear Francois, I also voted to reopen. I think this is an interesting question in the history of mathematics, and good answers will likely be informative and stimulating (as are some of those ... Dear Francois,

I also voted to reopen. I think this is an interesting question in the history of mathematics, and good answers will likely be informative and stimulating (as are some of those already given).

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François G. Dorais comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6026) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6026#Comment_6026 2010-06-12T06:05:43-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 François G. Dorais http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/144/ I haven't been convinced by the arguments so far, so I'm voting to reopen. I haven't been convinced by the arguments so far, so I'm voting to reopen.

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6025) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6025#Comment_6025 2010-06-12T02:29:36-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ @VP: +1! I don't think that a historian of mathematics could ever answer this question for the following reason: We can say what areas of mathematics a person did work in, but it's very hard to say ... @VP: +1!

I don't think that a historian of mathematics could ever answer this question for the following reason:

We can say what areas of mathematics a person did work in, but it's very hard to say what areas of mathematics that person understood. The only answer we could give is a pretty bad lower bound (Euclid, perhaps, could be said to have understood all of the pure mathematics of his time, but mainly because the field of pure mathematics was miniscule compared to today. However, even this is not a definitive answer, since it's very possible that large amounts of the work done were lost to the sands of time, so to speak.) Further, this depends integrally on our definition of what constitutes mathematics (was Aristotelian syllogistic logic actually mathematics?)!

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VP comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6024) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6024#Comment_6024 2010-06-12T01:58:10-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 VP http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/238/ On a related theme: who was the last historian of mathematics who would be qualified to answer this question? Qiaochu Yuan comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6023) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6023#Comment_6023 2010-06-11T21:34:09-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Qiaochu Yuan http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/13/ Scott, you said it best in another soft question with similar problems: any answer would reveal more about the ignorance of the answerer than about the question. Scott, you said it best in another soft question with similar problems: any answer would reveal more about the ignorance of the answerer than about the question.

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Harald Hanche-Olsen comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6021) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6021#Comment_6021 2010-06-11T18:54:27-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harald Hanche-Olsen http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/18/ @Scott: +1. The first names that occured to me was first Euler, then Gauss. @Scott: +1. The first names that occured to me was first Euler, then Gauss.

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Scott Carnahan comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6020) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6020#Comment_6020 2010-06-11T18:16:59-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Scott Carnahan http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/73/ I've closed the question. Although it is conceivable that at some point some answers citing scholarly historical work would appear, it seems unlikely that an authoritative answer is even possible.To ...
To be honest, the answers I saw seemed to vastly underestimate just how much math was known before 1900. If I had to guess at an answer, I'd pick someone 2000-2500 years older.]]>
danseetea comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6019) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6019#Comment_6019 2010-06-11T17:34:02-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 danseetea http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/252/ @Harry- I entirely agree with you that "it's subjective because a.) it requires us to judge someone's understanding of a subject from insufficient historical evidence". Undoubtedly very few ... @Harry- I entirely agree with you that "it's subjective because a.) it requires us to judge someone's understanding of a subject from insufficient historical evidence". Undoubtedly very few people can claim to have such broad historical perspective of mathematics that would allow them to answer this question. But if instead of asking people to give their own opinion, you would ask them to give concrete references of competent people dealing with this question, don't you think this would make the answers (if there are any) very enlightening?

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Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6018) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6018#Comment_6018 2010-06-11T17:17:34-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ Nearly all soft questions could be said to be subjective and argumentative. Do you usually vote to close most soft questions? I disagree and could find a number of soft questions that aren't ...

Nearly all soft questions could be said to be subjective and argumentative. Do you usually vote to close most soft questions?

I disagree and could find a number of soft questions that aren't subjective or argumentative (I've made a total of seven soft question posts, none of which could be considered either subjective or argumentative. I'm also very careful about what I call a soft question in the tags, so anything not immediately relevant to actual mathematics is marked as such).

Well, it's subjective because a.) it requires us to judge someone's understanding of a subject from insufficient historical evidence. b.) requires us to determine what fields we would consider mathematics, and c.) leads people to choose mathematicians within their own fields.

By c.) above, and since it is very close to the question "who was the best mathematician ever", it seems likely to start an argument.

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danseetea comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6017) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6017#Comment_6017 2010-06-11T17:10:54-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 danseetea http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/252/ @Harry -Nearly all soft questions could be said to be subjective and argumentative. Do you usually vote to close most soft questions?If not, I think it could be profitable if you share with us more ... Nearly all soft questions could be said to be subjective and argumentative. Do you usually vote to close most soft questions?
If not, I think it could be profitable if you share with us more precise information for why you consider this question inappropriate (other than the catch phrase "subjective and argumentative").]]>
Harry Gindi comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6016) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6016#Comment_6016 2010-06-11T17:04:10-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Harry Gindi http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/55/ I've voted to close as subjective and argumentative. I've voted to close as subjective and argumentative.

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Jon Awbrey comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6015) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6015#Comment_6015 2010-06-11T17:00:48-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 Jon Awbrey http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/34/ No, clearly it should be, "Who is the last mathematician who understood all of mathematics?" No, clearly it should be, "Who is the last mathematician who understood all of mathematics?"

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danseetea comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6014) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6014#Comment_6014 2010-06-11T16:55:32-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 danseetea http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/252/ I think it's a perfectly appropriate question because of two reasons:1. It should interest many mathematicians (it boils down to asking about the development of mathematics in early 20th century)2. ... 1. It should interest many mathematicians (it boils down to asking about the development of mathematics in early 20th century)
2. While as it stands it could be too subjective and argumentative, maybe someone has good references for some of the claims (Hilbert, Von Neumann) - I am sure many have discussed this topic (or variations of it) in history of math journals, so we just need to wait for an expert to give us the references (and it would be a shame to close this question before the expert arrives).

I have been reading some of the recent debates in meta about how soft questions should be treated, and as far as I could tell there is no consensus at the moment. I think this is a fine soft question; those who downvoted it probably generally dislike soft questions.]]>
François G. Dorais comments on "Who is the last mathematician that understood all of mathematics" (6013) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/439/who-is-the-last-mathematician-that-understood-all-of-mathematics/?Focus=6013#Comment_6013 2010-06-11T16:42:38-07:00 2018-11-04T23:27:57-08:00 François G. Dorais http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/account/144/ Question 27881 is raising some debate. I don't think it's that bad, but I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions. Question 27881 is raising some debate. I don't think it's that bad, but I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions.

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