tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (The Six-edit limit is nonsense) Sun, 04 Nov 2018 13:44:01 -0800 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 & Feed Publisher Harry Gindi comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (731) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=731#Comment_731 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=731#Comment_731 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:56:40 -0800 Harry Gindi David Speyer comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (730) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=730#Comment_730 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=730#Comment_730 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:03:21 -0800 David Speyer If you want this, vote up my feature request.

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Harry Gindi comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (728) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=728#Comment_728 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=728#Comment_728 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:49:00 -0800 Harry Gindi Harald Hanche-Olsen comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (725) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=725#Comment_725 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=725#Comment_725 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:06:26 -0800 Harald Hanche-Olsen Since the answer to my question was “no” (as I expected), I don't see any problems with this rule, for the same reason Anton gives (lots of edits is annoying). On the other hand, once the post is CW, maybe it encourages even more editing, now that lots of people can do it! But at least, it will discourage endless fiddling with a post in the hopes of gaining more upvotes from it. That is a good thing.

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (723) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=723#Comment_723 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=723#Comment_723 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:35:31 -0800 Anton Geraschenko Some technicalities:

  1. I think the actual number is eight or nine, rather than six, but I can't find a trustworthy source for the exact number. I feel like I've seen the post converted to wiki at different revision numbers.
  2. Any revisions that happen within five minutes of each other count as a single revision.
  3. If four different users contribute to a post, it is CW-ed (CWfied?), even if there have only been three revisions.

It's a bit of a tricky issue, and there's a fair amount of discussion about CW on meta.SO. The point is that you want to put some sorts of caps on all behaviors; if too much of a thing is going on, something's up. Unfortunately, converting to CW is the de facto way to deter too much editing. I can't think of a better one.

Why deter lots of editing? Because it's annoying. When you edit a post, it bumps the question to the top of the homepage,† which can get old quick. Even without that effect, I would really prefer that people make substantial edits. If you're still thinking heavily about one of your posts, don't edit it every time you have a new thought. Wait an hour or two and then commit whatever changes you have.

†Why bump questions to the homepage with every edit? For oxygen. Part of the magic of the SE framework is that it circulates posts so that anything that somebody finds interesting, other people are invited to find interesting as well. This keeps threads from becoming stale or outdated. If something happens on a question, people should be encouraged to check it out. Of course, there's the question of what constitutes "something happening". For example, you could argue that any edit that changes fewer than five characters constitutes fixing minor typos and should be ignored, or that a retag shouldn't count as an edit, and I kind of agree. Comments don't count as "something happening" so they aren't subject to immediate review by lots of people, which is why you need 50 rep to comment.

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Scott Morrison comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (721) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=721#Comment_721 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=721#Comment_721 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:58:05 -0800 Scott Morrison Notice that the answers don't also become community wiki -- it's not the same as what happens when a moderator wiki-hammers a question using the moderator tools.

I'm actually pretty happy with switching to community wiki after 6 edits. That many edits perhaps suggests that more might be necessary or useful, and having a post community wiki lowers the reputation threshold for people to edit. Further, after that many contributions form other people, maybe it makes sense that the original author doesn't necessarily get any further reputation, although I'm unsure on this one,

@Hanche -- no.

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Harald Hanche-Olsen comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (718) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=718#Comment_718 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=718#Comment_718 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:13:13 -0800 Harald Hanche-Olsen Related question: When a post (question or answer) becomes community wiki, does the owner lose any reputation already gained from that post?

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Harry Gindi comments on "The Six-edit limit is nonsense" (715) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=715#Comment_715 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/69/the-sixedit-limit-is-nonsense/?Focus=715#Comment_715 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:13:56 -0800 Harry Gindi