tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (User suspension) Sun, 04 Nov 2018 12:59:12 -0800 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 & Feed Publisher Yemon Choi comments on "User suspension" (21874) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=21874#Comment_21874 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=21874#Comment_21874 Mon, 15 Apr 2013 23:40:10 -0700 Yemon Choi Some melon farmers are still always trying to skate uphill:

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/127674/cryptographie-matricielle

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Will Jagy comments on "User suspension" (19407) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=19407#Comment_19407 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=19407#Comment_19407 Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:27:35 -0700 Will Jagy
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/100630/symplectic-form-for-the-spinors ]]>
Yemon Choi comments on "User suspension" (19398) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=19398#Comment_19398 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=19398#Comment_19398 Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:55:55 -0700 Yemon Choi Back once again with the renegade master...

100480: quantum cryptography

100468: Einstein's equations for Dirac's spinors

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Yemon Choi comments on "User suspension" (18287) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=18287#Comment_18287 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=18287#Comment_18287 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 00:40:52 -0800 Yemon Choi He's back, or at least someone with the same name is:

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/87566/endomorphismes-of-a-fiber.

I have no idea if the question is easy, or hard, or suitable, or interesting.

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François G. Dorais comments on "User suspension" (17040) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17040#Comment_17040 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17040#Comment_17040 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:15:18 -0800 François G. Dorais The question is a duplicate of http://mathoverflow.net/questions/48789/rank-of-a-free-module-without-the-axiom-of-choice, which asks the same question for free modules instead of vector spaces. I closed it.

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Asaf Karagila comments on "User suspension" (17039) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17039#Comment_17039 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17039#Comment_17039 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:11:52 -0800 Asaf Karagila Just to make my point on that last question,

The proof itself is very nontrivial (i.e. it is more than just a simple symmetry argument as with other, simpler, permutation models) and personally I do not have the time to study it in-depth, although I would do so eventually.

Furthermore, when answering a particular user I would always prefer to aim for the user's level. If someone whom I know to be proficient in permutation models asks a question it will be fine just to outline the model and the argument for the proof. On the other hand, if it is someone who is less familiar then I would bring myself to write a short exposition on the topic as well.

Judging from the previous questions, it seems that the latter is the case due to the previous questions. Which makes the job even longer and harder, one more reason for me not to approach this question (even if I'd wanted to do so right now). Maybe in a few weeks I can find the time for it, but I cannot say right now.

Lastly, all been said, I support quid's stand in this case. I believe that somewhat a stricter approach towards this user is in order.

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Todd Trimble comments on "User suspension" (17038) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17038#Comment_17038 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17038#Comment_17038 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:08:17 -0800 Todd Trimble Okay, I understand better your argument; thanks for clarifying. At this point I'd like to hear what others think about how to deal with balan-antoine. Meanwhile, the question has been reopened.

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quid comments on "User suspension" (17037) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17037#Comment_17037 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17037#Comment_17037 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:59:30 -0800 quid No, I do not suggest a permanent ban. I only suggest to be somewhat stricter than with any other user. In particular, as this was not the first question after the temporary suspension expired. (If this were so, one could say there was some improvement.)

For example, you said, some days ago (my emphasize):

I think MO is for professionals to answer questions of professional interest in ways likely to be useful to the questioner who is honestly in need.

Let's say I doubt the emphaszied part. And, while I would not always be strict regarding this, I think it is justified to be so in this case. To put it differently, I think MO should always be open for things falling into the category you laid out, yet not exclusive for this, in general. Yet, under special circumstance, I think one can fall back to this and require at least implicit/indirect proof for this.

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Todd Trimble comments on "User suspension" (17036) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17036#Comment_17036 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17036#Comment_17036 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:43:59 -0800 Todd Trimble Well, in that case, I suppose you want to permanently suspend this user. We could do that (and I for one wouldn't stand in the way), but if we don't do that, then that means we are effectively giving the user another chance, and we treat him as we would another user, judging questions on a case-by-case basis. And with that, I think this particular question is not only fine, but good -- a question (and eventual answer) a lot of people could benefit from.

So my question is: do you propose to permanently suspend this user?

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quid comments on "User suspension" (17035) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17035#Comment_17035 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17035#Comment_17035 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:36:48 -0800 quid My point here is not so much that I want to enforce standards for MO questions here. My key point is the: happended to be a good one. If one writes enough very terse question, eventually one will be about alright. (If it were not so terse one could infer something more.) I think it is unfortunate to encourage this user in any way, as long as there is no consistent improvement of behavior.

In 10 days when the supension ends, what will happen. We get some new questions. We close five and the sixth one will be sort of alright. This seems a pointless activity to me.

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Todd Trimble comments on "User suspension" (17034) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17034#Comment_17034 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17034#Comment_17034 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:23:03 -0800 Todd Trimble I think it's an absolutely fine question, quid. The only reason I can think of for not admitting it is that the user has violated come conditions placed upon him. And in that case, I would be happy to make enough edits so that the question becomes community wiki, so that in effect the community 'owns' the question.

The question is very much in line with many other MO questions (just as much or as little motivated) that involve the axiom of choice and its interaction with linear algebra. It is, evidently, a set-theoretic question. JDH and Asaf evidently have an answer in mind. I for one would be very interested to hear it.

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quid comments on "User suspension" (17033) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17033#Comment_17033 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17033#Comment_17033 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:10:24 -0800 quid The user antoine-balan was active again, but is re-suspended (actually re-re I think).

The most recent question however is now 'defended' by JDH and somewhat close to reopening. I do not have the individual competence to judge the merits of that questions, but I certainly trust JDH's judgement on this. Still I see little point in reopening this. The question seems to be alright purely as a mathematical question, but is still not a good MO question (from a more formalistic point of view). And, that user has meanwhile a considerable track-record of asking 'questionable' question and in particular is completely unresponsive to comments in English and French (so that this does not seem to be purely a language problem). Moreover, the question range over several mathematical fields, and so the motivation even seems more unclear. What's the point of all these questions? Just asking some questions on MO, or something else?

So, I think as long as this user does not make some good-faith effort to comply a bit to the basic standards of the site I think there is little reason to be 'friendly'. Just that one of these question happended to be a good one, is to little reason for me. (We already had one other instance where somebody, algori I believe, helped out with the formulation of the question, but this was at least earlier in the process.)

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Will Jagy comments on "User suspension" (17030) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17030#Comment_17030 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=17030#Comment_17030 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:16:19 -0800 Will Jagy
I see, the one successful one was originally a one-liner in French, completely rewritten by algori, then re-opened:

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/77273/ideals-of-the-ring-of-smooth-functions ]]>
Joel Reyes Noche comments on "User suspension" (16581) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16581#Comment_16581 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16581#Comment_16581 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:04:16 -0700 Joel Reyes Noche http://mathoverflow.net/questions/78298/fermats-like-equation-and-generalization-closed ]]> Anton Geraschenko comments on "User suspension" (16580) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16580#Comment_16580 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16580#Comment_16580 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:14:25 -0700 Anton Geraschenko Ugh. Since the posts are terrible and the user is unresponsive, I've re-suspended and deleted the new posts.

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Ryan Budney comments on "User suspension" (16579) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16579#Comment_16579 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16579#Comment_16579 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:08:56 -0700 Ryan Budney
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/78288/symmetric-dirac-operator

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/78285/poisson-brackets-with-torsion ]]>
theojf comments on "User suspension" (16555) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16555#Comment_16555 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16555#Comment_16555 Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:36:31 -0700 theojf Whereas I thought snide comments kind of funny!

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Scott Carnahan comments on "User suspension" (16508) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16508#Comment_16508 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16508#Comment_16508 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:21:12 -0700 Scott Carnahan If you find an answer that is rude or offensive, please flag as offensive. If you find an answer that is spam, please flag as spam. The MathOverflow robot and/or moderators will take care of the rest.

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Will Jagy comments on "User suspension" (16464) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16464#Comment_16464 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16464#Comment_16464 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:34:12 -0700 Will Jagy DavidRoberts comments on "User suspension" (16462) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16462#Comment_16462 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16462#Comment_16462 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 21:56:15 -0700 DavidRoberts I was thinking of bringing this user up, Will. In particular, these answers

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/77634/best-simple-eigen-decomposition-algorithm-for-pca-are-there-multiple-solutions-t/77638#77638

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/76549/modeling-appropriate-set-of-learning-activities/76556#76556

are particularly unhelpful and snide about site polices.

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Will Jagy comments on "User suspension" (16460) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16460#Comment_16460 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16460#Comment_16460 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:34:39 -0700 Will Jagy quid comments on "User suspension" (16454) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16454#Comment_16454 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16454#Comment_16454 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:45:03 -0700 quid Thierry, I see some difference here in that VP's questions often are/were at least questions that make sense (the FLT is not in this category), even if they are tersely formulated and too simple. However, perhaps more advertising of math.SE will do; where I think some of the questions would fit in.

By contrast for AB there is often not even a question; one might attribute this to major difficulties with English. But then it did not seem so bad, and then there was a switch to French but the question did not at all become clearer or more detailed. And, also no willingness to communicate somehow with people commenting. So here I am really at a loss regarding the motivation.

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thierryzell comments on "User suspension" (16452) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16452#Comment_16452 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16452#Comment_16452 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:23:38 -0700 thierryzell
On another note altogether, there is another user who's accumulated a similar record over the same 1-week span: http://mathoverflow.net/users/18229/vassilis-parassidis
I have not yet flagged mostly because I was away from MO for a while and I missed most of this activity, but if the next question is as inappropriate, I probably will. ]]>
Joel Reyes Noche comments on "User suspension" (16421) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16421#Comment_16421 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16421#Comment_16421 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:13:24 -0700 Joel Reyes Noche Yemon Choi comments on "User suspension" (16420) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16420#Comment_16420 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16420#Comment_16420 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:09:23 -0700 Yemon Choi There's also a bizarre one in '98: http://arxiv.org/abs/math/9810141

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reimundo comments on "User suspension" (16419) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16419#Comment_16419 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16419#Comment_16419 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:04:53 -0700 reimundo
http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0105003 ]]>
deane.yang comments on "User suspension" (16415) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16415#Comment_16415 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16415#Comment_16415 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:51:08 -0700 deane.yang Will Jagy comments on "User suspension" (16412) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16412#Comment_16412 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16412#Comment_16412 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:55:44 -0700 Will Jagy Scott Morrison comments on "User suspension" (16411) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16411#Comment_16411 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1163/user-suspension/?Focus=16411#Comment_16411 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:20:53 -0700 Scott Morrison I just suspended the anonymous user http://mathoverflow.net/users/18107/balan-antoine. Essentially every question he's asked in the last week has been closed, with no response from him.

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