tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (Deleting answers to homework questions) Sun, 04 Nov 2018 13:42:32 -0800 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 & Feed Publisher Harry Gindi comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (1765) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=1765#Comment_1765 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=1765#Comment_1765 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:21:59 -0800 Harry Gindi Andy Putman comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (1753) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=1753#Comment_1753 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=1753#Comment_1753 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:14:00 -0800 Andy Putman Shevek comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (1736) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=1736#Comment_1736 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=1736#Comment_1736 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:17:56 -0800 Shevek bbukh comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (677) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=677#Comment_677 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=677#Comment_677 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:21:48 -0800 bbukh David Speyer comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (671) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=671#Comment_671 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=671#Comment_671 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:52:00 -0800 David Speyer I'll post a longer rant about this later, but I would oppose deleting homework questions as long as people differ so broadly about what they think is homework. I've seen a lot of questions attacked as homework which don't ring my radar at all.

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bbukh comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (668) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=668#Comment_668 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=668#Comment_668 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:28:33 -0800 bbukh Harrison Brown comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (634) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=634#Comment_634 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=634#Comment_634 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:45:05 -0800 Harrison Brown
1. Occasionally a "homework question" borders on a question at a higher level of mathematical sophistication, which someone else could then ask (see e.g. <a href="http://mathoverflow.net/questions/5323/infinitely-many-primes-of-the-form-2nc-as-n-varies">this question</a>) in which case it's a good idea to keep the question and answers visible for "historical reasons."

2. More selfishly, there's the simple fact that not all such questions are created equal, and it's occasionally just <i>fun</i> to take a break from answering just the hard questions and answer a trivial-but-reasonable clueless undergrad question. If I were convinced that that would lead to MO turning into "homework help central," I'd understand de-incentivizing this behavior, but it hasn't so far, so cracking down on it seems kind of needlessly harsh. ]]>
Akhil Mathew comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (625) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=625#Comment_625 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=625#Comment_625 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:34:59 -0800 Akhil Mathew
I disagree that user filtering is desirable; I think that would create unnecessary work for prospective users, and besides my impression at least was that the site was to collect together questions with a certain lower bound on mathematical sophistication, not necessarily to create a community of exclusively professional mathematicians (though they may be intended to be the primary users).

I think the policy of closing and downvoting homework questions is preferable and probably less work in the long run. ]]>
Jon Awbrey comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (616) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=616#Comment_616 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=616#Comment_616 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:51 -0800 Jon Awbrey Scott,

It is usually better to do something pre-emptive — and I don't mean nuclear — than it is to bash people after the fact.

If you're not really open to all the hassles that come with running an open site, then perhaps you should consider different management models and software options.

Just for one example, if you want to exclude the sorts of users who ask "unwanted questions", then maybe you should consider putting user filters up front, rather than allowing open registration.

As a general rule, clarifying your values and articulating them up front will lead to less headaches on all sides in the long run.

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Scott Morrison comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (615) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=615#Comment_615 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=615#Comment_615 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:52:27 -0800 Scott Morrison Hijacking isn't a huge danger, I think. We always have the nuclear optioning of suspending users.

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Sonia Balagopalan comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (612) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=612#Comment_612 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=612#Comment_612 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:58:14 -0800 Sonia Balagopalan Also, if votes on these answers give reputation, we run the risk of being hijacked by a (potentially large enough) sub-community of people asking and answering these questions. It has happened elsewhere. ]]> Scott Morrison comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (609) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=609#Comment_609 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=609#Comment_609 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:17:15 -0800 Scott Morrison @David,

I think the question though is what to do after someone breaks Anton's quoted policy, by leaving a helpful answer.

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David Speyer comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (608) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=608#Comment_608 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=608#Comment_608 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:26:19 -0800 David Speyer I like Anton's policy:

My policy has been that it's okay to point somebody in the right direction in a comment (not an answer) after it's been made clear that the question belongs on some other forum and not on MO.

I also don't think this is homework. It looks like the sort of thing a high school student might be confused about because his or her teacher never explained it clearly; any teacher who assigned a student to remember how he or she chose to define an edge case should not be teaching math.

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Ben Webster comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (606) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=606#Comment_606 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=606#Comment_606 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:05:26 -0800 Ben Webster @Scott-

This seems like a strange position. I think either one should leave the question with answers up, or you should delete the whole shebang. I would be supportive, though with some reservations, about the latter position.

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Jon Awbrey comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (605) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=605#Comment_605 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=605#Comment_605 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:05 -0800 Jon Awbrey Do you mean to exclude all homeworky questions, or just undergrad homeworky questions? A large percentage of the questions that appear to be locally valorized as "non-soft" questions appear to be typical of those seen in grad school problem seminars. That is healthy exercise, indeed, but if it's the main intention of the site managers to stick to that, then it might help all concerned to articulate the distinction a little more clearly.

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Scott Morrison comments on "Deleting answers to homework questions" (604) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=604#Comment_604 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/57/deleting-answers-to-homework-questions/?Focus=604#Comment_604 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:37:44 -0800 Scott Morrison I'd like to propose that when a question is closed as "homework", and it's 'egregious', that we also delete any well-meaning answers that have already appeared.

Here's an example of the things I have in mind. In particular, see the answer at the bottom, to which Jay, the asker, comments: "Thanks! Your responses are greatly appreciated. – Jay". This was definitely a case where the unwelcome guest went away happy.

So far, I downvote answers to homework questions, and try to explain why they shouldn't be answered. I suspect that this is enough already, but I wanted to get people's opinions on a possible escalation!

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