tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (Math job advertisements on MO ?)

Noah Snyder comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (20003)

Noah Snyder — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:34:12 -0700

I agree with Henry and Scott. I definitely don't think that well-done career "advertising" should be a deal breaker, and although I'm conservative enough that I'd prefer we not experiment with something like that, I'm also quite willing to believe that it might end up being a good thing.

Mark Meckes comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19997)

Mark Meckes — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:57 -0700

For what it's worth, mathjobs.org already does list some non-academic jobs, although they are a small minority of the listings, and I suspect a rather non-representative sampling of non-academic job opportunities.

Anton Geraschenko comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19994)

Anton Geraschenko — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:55:05 -0700

@Tom and Todd: If we mimic Stack Overflow, careers wouldn't be a separate Q&A site. It would be a place where people could input/upload their CVs (and tie them to their MO accounts), and where employers could browse the list of CVs. I don't think a MO careers Q&A site would be useful.

Todd Trimble comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19986)

Todd Trimble — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 06:36:45 -0700

it would also provide a natural home for the questions about careers that pop up occasionally, on whose suitability for MO the community seems quite divided.

I would be more in favor of that than discussing such questions on MO, where academic mathematicians wind up offering advice on questions about careers outside of academic mathematics.

Tom Leinster comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19983)

Tom Leinster — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 05:30:03 -0700

Scott's suggestion of careers.mathoverflow.net would have another advantage: it would also provide a natural home for the questions about careers that pop up occasionally, on whose suitability for MO the community seems quite divided.

Perhaps it's worth adding that mathjobs.org could also list non-academic jobs, if it wanted. The equivalent in the UK, jobs.ac.uk (which covers all subjects), frequently carries non-academic jobs that require a PhD. You can apply filters so that, for example, you only see academic mathematics jobs, or only see non-academic mathematics jobs.

Scott Morrison comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19978)

Scott Morrison — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:09:50 -0700

The Stack Exchange people have actually thought a lot about job ads, and the main Stack Overflow site has an associated site http://careers.stackoverflow.com which in my understanding is really quite good for programmers.

They talked to us a while back about whether such a site would be useful for mathematicians. In my recollection, we basically told them the MathJobs has, for now, nicely solved the problem for academic jobs, but that there was still a significant problem matching jobs postings outside academia with interested mathematicians considering leaving academia. Maybe someday we can have careers.mathoverflow.net? I can imagine it being a really useful thing; far too many mathematics students have trouble identifying options outside academia.

DavidRoberts comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19977)

DavidRoberts — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:59:08 -0700

I agree with Henry ... (stop, David!) In particular, some of the community promotion ads in the SE2.0 model (see M.SE list) are quite inoffensive, though obviously the open source/free software ones aren't going to start paying for airplay.

Henry Cohn comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19974)

Henry Cohn — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:43:33 -0700

I agree with Tom, Todd, Vladimir, Andy, and David that no advertisements is better than advertisements, but if MO ever has to raise money through ads, I hope it's restricted to ads that would be of genuine value to at least some of the community, and job ads could fit that description.

DavidRoberts comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19973)

DavidRoberts — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:32:57 -0700

I agree with Tom, Todd, Vladimir and Andy. (How long can we keep this up?)

Andy Putman comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19972)

Andy Putman — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:16:49 -0700

I strongly agree with Tom, Todd, and Vladimir.

Vladimir Dotsenko comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19971)

Vladimir Dotsenko — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:29:04 -0700

I fully agree with Tom and Todd on this matter.

Todd Trimble comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19969)

Todd Trimble — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:08:06 -0700

Me too, Tom.

Tom Leinster comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19968)

Tom Leinster — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:59:41 -0700

Personally, I would prefer a site without advertising.

Alexander Chervov comments on "Math job advertisements on MO ?" (19965)

Alexander Chervov — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:22:50 -0700

Reading this question http://mathoverflow.net/questions/105495/what-can-an-algebraic-geometer-do-outside-academia
and remembering myself some years ago.

The following seems good for me at the moment - is it possible
to allow/organize math job banners on MO ?

I was in academia for 10 years and when decided to switch I was completely ignorant what kind of job can I find,
what salary I should ask and so on, moreover my feeling were that no one needs any math skills... This is not really the good position for entering job market.