tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (MOderator election nominations) Sun, 04 Nov 2018 23:25:36 -0800 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 & Feed Publisher Kevin Lin comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6355) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6355#Comment_6355 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6355#Comment_6355 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:12:02 -0700 Kevin Lin Congrats to the winners!

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Ryan Budney comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6293) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6293#Comment_6293 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6293#Comment_6293 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:00 -0700 Ryan Budney Scott Carnahan comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6275) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6275#Comment_6275 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6275#Comment_6275 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:19:47 -0700 Scott Carnahan Thank you for the nomination, Harry. Thanks to everyone for the votes.

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danseetea comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6271) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6271#Comment_6271 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6271#Comment_6271 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:22:41 -0700 danseetea So people didn't follow the "upvote your favorites and downvote everyone else" strategy as someone suggested, as we see relatively few downvotes. Congratulations to the new moderators.

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Harald Hanche-Olsen comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6268) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6268#Comment_6268 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6268#Comment_6268 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:27:35 -0700 Harald Hanche-Olsen And Ryan Budney and myself tied for the fewest downvotes. I guess we have kept too low a profile to get anybody mad at us. Need to do something about that before the next election.

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François G. Dorais comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6266) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6266#Comment_6266 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6266#Comment_6266 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:03:13 -0700 François G. Dorais Thanks to all my supporters! Thanks to Harry for nominating me!

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Campaigner comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6265) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6265#Comment_6265 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6265#Comment_6265 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:51:49 -0700 Campaigner Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6261) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6261#Comment_6261 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6261#Comment_6261 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:43:51 -0700 Harry Gindi Congratulations, guys!

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Andrew Stacey comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6258) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6258#Comment_6258 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6258#Comment_6258 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:35:42 -0700 Andrew Stacey D'oh!

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6256) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6256#Comment_6256 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6256#Comment_6256 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:26:28 -0700 Anton Geraschenko @Andrew: no, it looks perfectly normal. Those are weird artifacts from copying the page that I didn't bother to fix.

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Andrew Stacey comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6254) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6254#Comment_6254 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6254#Comment_6254 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:14:48 -0700 Andrew Stacey Gosh! Another view into a moderator's world. Does it really have all those irritating 'a-hat TM's when you look at an MO page? Makes me doubly glad that I declined nomination!

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6253) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6253#Comment_6253 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6253#Comment_6253 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:04:03 -0700 Anton Geraschenko Election Results!

I've looked at the database dump for voting oddities and found nothing strange, so here are the election results:

Name                      Upvotes  Downvotes
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Scott Carnahan         151        17
François G. Dorais     139         8
Qiaochu Yuan            120        21
Harald Hanche-Olsen   66         5
Kevin Lin                      62         8
Ryan Budney               52         5
Harry Gindi                  46        45

Congratulations to our new moderators, Scott and François!

I've deleted the question and sent a list of badges to the SE team for them to remove. The promised backup of the election thread is available here for you to enjoy.

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6098) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6098#Comment_6098 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6098#Comment_6098 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:31:33 -0700 Anton Geraschenko @Noah: I've added that comment. I think it's fine to leave comments highlighting the advantages of various candidates, whether circumstantial (e.g. being in a "strange" time zone) or personal (e.g. extremely level-headed and eloquent).

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Noah Snyder comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6096) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6096#Comment_6096 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6096#Comment_6096 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:56:35 -0700 Noah Snyder Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6095) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6095#Comment_6095 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6095#Comment_6095 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:34:16 -0700 Anton Geraschenko The election thread is now open. I've used the list compiled by Harry (two posts up). If I've missed anybody who accepted a nomination, please add them as an answer.

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Georges Elencwajg comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6054) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6054#Comment_6054 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6054#Comment_6054 Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:49:35 -0700 Georges Elencwajg I'm extremely moved by this nomination and thank you cordially . Still, I'm declining since I'm only a very sporadic visitor to meta. Also I feel it would be dishonest to accept, since I feel I would essentially never use moderator power. The sad truth is that weird questions tend to amuse me rather than annoy me, and this irresponsible attitude ill befits a moderator. ]]> Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6053) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6053#Comment_6053 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6053#Comment_6053 Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:16:28 -0700 Harry Gindi Nominated:

Reid Barton (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Will Jagy (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Mariano Suárez-Alvarez (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Denis-Charles Cisinski (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Urs Schreiber (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Gerald Edgar (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Gil Kalai (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Tom Leinster (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill (nominated by Grétar Amazeen)
*Sergei Ivanov (nominated by Campaigner)
Greg Kuperberg (nominated by Campaigner)
Deane Yang (nominated by Ilya Grigoriev)

Active Candidates for Nomination (Note: These people are just people who have been recently active, have more than 10 posts on meta, and over 1500 reputation. This list is not exclusive, but they satisfy Anton's last three suggestions):

Harrison Brown
Zev Chonoles
fedja
Michael Lugo
Akhil Mathew
Mark Meckes
Jonas Meyer
Sam Nead
Charles Siegel
Douglas Zare

Accepted:

Harry Gindi
Ryan Budney
*Scott Carnahan
François G Dorais
*Harald Hanche-Olsen
Kevin Lin
*Qiaochu Yuan

Declined:

*Kevin Buzzard
Yemon Choi
Pete L Clark
Hailong Dao
Emerton
*Andrea Ferretti
Joel David Hamkins
Noah Snyder
David Speyer
*Andrew Stacey
Andy Putman
Mike Shulman
Charles Rezk
Steve Huntsman
James Borger
Bill Johnson
Georges Elencwajg

Also, if you can get in contact with people to let them know that they've been nominated, this will allow us to reduce the list more quickly, since I suspect a number of the nominated people will decline the nomination.

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Bill Johnson comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6052) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6052#Comment_6052 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6052#Comment_6052 Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:11:45 -0700 Bill Johnson James Borger comments on "MOderator election nominations" (6006) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6006#Comment_6006 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=6006#Comment_6006 Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:04:47 -0700 James Borger Steve Huntsman comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5990) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5990#Comment_5990 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5990#Comment_5990 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:55:12 -0700 Steve Huntsman Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5988) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5988#Comment_5988 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5988#Comment_5988 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:30:00 -0700 Harry Gindi Accepted (even though I know I won't win (thanks!)).

Brian Conrad can't be nominated since he is not even registered, and he will definitely decline. I can put him on the list if you really want me to, but I'm totally certain about the outcome.

I've also nominated Steve Huntsman

Also Eric Peterson

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Campaigner comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5986) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5986#Comment_5986 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5986#Comment_5986 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:25:45 -0700 Campaigner
Why not Harry Gindi as well? He is the most active member in MO and will heavily influence the general drift of the site anyway, through all the intense meta discussions he takes part in. It is more or less a mere formality to make him a moderator. ]]>
Charles Rezk comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5982) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5982#Comment_5982 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5982#Comment_5982 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:46:03 -0700 Charles Rezk Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5960) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5960#Comment_5960 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5960#Comment_5960 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:45:45 -0700 Anton Geraschenko

@Anton: could you speak explicitly to the role/possibility of downvotes in the election process?

I don't expect them to play very much of a role, but they certainly are possible. I don't have a problem with somebody expressing the opinion the somebody shouldn't be a moderator. But I suppose the concern is that the more game-theoretically inclined sector of our population will try to maximize their impact by upvoting the candidate(s) they want to win and downvoting everybody else. I do have access to the numbers of up and down votes. I'll check to see if the results look any different with downvotes removed. If they do, or if there are any other anomalies that make a difference, the other moderators and I will decide what to do about it. I apologize in advance for the lack of transparency if that happens. For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure that none of us has anything to gain from an unfair election.

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Pete L. Clark comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5956) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5956#Comment_5956 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5956#Comment_5956 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:47:34 -0700 Pete L. Clark
If you have access to the numbers of up- and downvotes and not just their difference, perhaps you could just throw out the downvotes. On the other hand, there are lack of transparency issues there, I suppose. ]]>
Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5954) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5954#Comment_5954 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5954#Comment_5954 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:53:05 -0700 Anton Geraschenko

Anton--When will the proverbial floor be closed for nominations? If we're electing one or two mods it seems like we ought to be pretty well covered by now.

I was thinking of leaving this thread open for at least a few more days so that people have a chance to accept/decline nominations. It also gives people a chance to chime in on how we should run the election.

If after a few more days this thread is cooling off as expected and there are no big issues raised on the other thread, we'll post this as a CW "question" on MO with the candidates as "answers" and I'll put a system message on the site encouraging people to vote. After some fixed period of time (one week sounds right), the election will end.

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Mike Shulman comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5951) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5951#Comment_5951 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5951#Comment_5951 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:19:58 -0700 Mike Shulman I appreciate the nomination, but I have to decline at this time. I am stretched too thin already to commit myself to a more active role in MO.

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Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5950) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5950#Comment_5950 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5950#Comment_5950 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:53:48 -0700 Harry Gindi Nominated:

Eric Peterson (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Reid Barton (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Will Jagy (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Mariano Suárez-Alvarez (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Bill Johnson (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Denis-Charles Cisinski (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Urs Schreiber (nominated by Harry Gindi)
James Borger (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Gerald Edgar (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Gil Kalai (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Tom Leinster (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Georges Elencwajg (nominated by Kevin Lin)
*Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill (nominated by Grétar Amazeen)
*Sergei Ivanov (nominated by Campaigner)
Greg Kuperberg (nominated by Campaigner)
Deane Yang (nominated by Ilya Grigoriev)

Active Candidates for Nomination (Note: These people are just people who have been recently active, have more than 10 posts on meta, and over 1500 reputation. This list is not exclusive, but they satisfy Anton's last three suggestions):

Harrison Brown
Zev Chonoles
fedja
Michael Lugo
Akhil Mathew
Mark Meckes
Jonas Meyer
Sam Nead
Charles Siegel
Douglas Zare

Accepted:

Harry Gindi Ryan Budney
*Scott Carnahan
François G Dorais
*Harald Hanche-Olsen
Kevin Lin
*Qiaochu Yuan

Declined:

*Kevin Buzzard
Yemon Choi
Pete L Clark
Hailong Dao
Emerton
*Andrea Ferretti
Joel David Hamkins
Noah Snyder
David Speyer
*Andrew Stacey
Andy Putman
Mike Shulman
Charles Rezk
Steve Huntsman
James Borger

Also, if you can get in contact with people to let them know that they've been nominated, this will allow us to reduce the list more quickly, since I suspect a number of the nominated people will decline the nomination.

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Andy Putman comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5949) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5949#Comment_5949 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5949#Comment_5949 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:34:46 -0700 Andy Putman Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5948) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5948#Comment_5948 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5948#Comment_5948 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:27:39 -0700 Harry Gindi Reid Barton, I nominate you!

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Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5947) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5947#Comment_5947 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5947#Comment_5947 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:55:39 -0700 Harry Gindi I'm trying to nominate people who tend to agree with me on closing questions. As more people decline, I'm nominating new people to replace them.

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Steve Huntsman comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5946) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5946#Comment_5946 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5946#Comment_5946 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:43:15 -0700 Steve Huntsman Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5945) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5945#Comment_5945 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5945#Comment_5945 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:36:57 -0700 Harry Gindi More nominations

Andy Putman
Charles Rezk
Will Jagy

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Yemon Choi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5898) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5898#Comment_5898 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5898#Comment_5898 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:52:15 -0700 Yemon Choi Hi everyone,

Apologies for the delay in responding - I am currently at a conference and internet access has not been as easy (or free) as usual.

While I'm flattered to have been nominated as a moderator, I too must make excuses and respectfully decline the nomination: this is partly due to an expected increase in my workload (teaching and research) as of this August, but also because I'm not sure I have the patience or experience-of-other moderation that such a role would ideally require.

Looking back, I think I enjoy the role of "not too uninformed commenter" too much, and the "conflict resolution" side of moderation does not appeal that much to me at the moment.

That said, like Pete Clark upthread, I appreciate the nomination (thanks, Harry), and if I were asked again in the future then I would give it serious consideration.

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Kevin Buzzard comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5877) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5877#Comment_5877 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5877#Comment_5877 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:11:12 -0700 Kevin Buzzard Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5869) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5869#Comment_5869 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5869#Comment_5869 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:21:49 -0700 Harry Gindi François G. Dorais 1 day ago edited

EDIT: Joel has just informed me that he unfortunately has to decline the nomination.

Steve, I see that you missed this for your list, so I've reposted it.

Also, could you reorganize your list and put everyone who has declined at the bottom?

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Kevin Lin comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5867) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5867#Comment_5867 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5867#Comment_5867 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:06:54 -0700 Kevin Lin Thanks Harry for nominating me. I accept the nomination.

@Qiaochu: I have emailed Georges.

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Ryan Budney comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5847) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5847#Comment_5847 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5847#Comment_5847 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:55:06 -0700 Ryan Budney Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5845) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5845#Comment_5845 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5845#Comment_5845 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:48:59 -0700 Anton Geraschenko

Moderator powers will be granted to an existing account

Urgh. This means that one's votes to close, say, become final?

This is a mildly annoying aspect of being a moderator, but it should hardly be a deciding factor unless you think of voting to close as one of your more cherished MO activities. For what it's worth, it doesn't seem to stop me or Scott. As of June 1, there were 723 instances of a question being closed; I voted to close 209 of those and Scott voted to close 203 of them. The next largest "close number" is 127. If I want to close a question that doesn't have a few votes to close already, I often leave a comment along the lines of "I would vote to close because X, Y, and Z. You can improve the post by doing A, B, or C." It takes a bit more mental energy, but I feel like the effect of such a comment is the same (or better than) a vote to close.

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Qiaochu Yuan comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5836) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5836#Comment_5836 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5836#Comment_5836 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:20:31 -0700 Qiaochu Yuan @Akhil: I accept, if only because we young'uns are the only people on MO without actual professional responsibilities! As for time zones, I'll be in England for the next year.

@Kevin: You will probably have to direct Georges to this thread - as far as I know, he is not active on meta.

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Andrew Stacey comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5834) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5834#Comment_5834 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5834#Comment_5834 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:20:14 -0700 Andrew Stacey @Mariano: exactly so.

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Mariano comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5830) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5830#Comment_5830 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5830#Comment_5830 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:55:36 -0700 Mariano

Moderator powers will be granted to an existing account

Urgh. This means that one's votes to close, say, become final?

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Andrew Stacey comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5827) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5827#Comment_5827 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5827#Comment_5827 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:40:30 -0700 Andrew Stacey Anton said:

Moderator powers will be granted to an existing account

That's the decider for me. That means that becoming a moderator would mean that I could no longer participate in the normal run-of-the-mill community moderation. It would actually mean that I could be less vocal in expressing my opinion on how MO should work since my opinion would carry more weight. There's a danger that it would kill off any usefulness that MO has for me as my primary role on MO would be of moderator instead of participant. Harry mentioned my "experience" in moderating the nForum and nLab. Over there, I have separate accounts for "just being me" and "being the administrator". This separation means that I can take part in the normal discourse, and that it's obvious to one and all when I'm being a moderator and when I'm just expressing my own opinion. Also, by having to log out and log back in again, I protect against random acts of moderation.

Now that Harald has accepted his nomination, I can decline with a clear conscience. I know Harald fairly well (we're at the same university - when he's not on sabbatical) and know that he would be a far better moderator than I would. As he is (or will be) in the same timezone as me, having me on the list does not add anything to the pool of nominees.

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Noah Snyder comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5813) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5813#Comment_5813 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5813#Comment_5813 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:25:58 -0700 Noah Snyder Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5812) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5812#Comment_5812 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5812#Comment_5812 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:55:06 -0700 Harry Gindi I nominate Kevin Lin

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Kevin Lin comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5811) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5811#Comment_5811 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5811#Comment_5811 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:41:14 -0700 Kevin Lin I nominate Kevin Buzzard and Georges Elencwajg.

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Harald Hanche-Olsen comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5808) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5808#Comment_5808 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5808#Comment_5808 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:13:15 -0700 Harald Hanche-Olsen What, I am a nominee, now? Oh well, I'll stick my neck out and accept the nomination. I don't promise to be a very active moderator, though. If you see that as an advantage, by all means vote for me. But I will step in where it clearly seems necessary. Western Europe time zone for those interested (starting in August).

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Scott Carnahan comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5806) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5806#Comment_5806 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5806#Comment_5806 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:30:32 -0700 Scott Carnahan Andrea comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5804) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5804#Comment_5804 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5804#Comment_5804 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:19:36 -0700 Andrea I really thank Steve for the nomination, but I feel I'm wasting too much time these days; indeed I have been less active on MathOverflow lately. I'd be glad to participate as a MathOverflow moderator, but I fear I'd end up not working. So, I have to decline.

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Akhil Mathew comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5802) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5802#Comment_5802 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5802#Comment_5802 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:04:14 -0700 Akhil Mathew Ilya Grigoriev comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5799) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5799#Comment_5799 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5799#Comment_5799 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:05:31 -0700 Ilya Grigoriev François G. Dorais comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5796) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5796#Comment_5796 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5796#Comment_5796 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:33:58 -0700 François G. Dorais Harry just beat me to nominating Mike Shulman. I also want to nominate Joel David Hamkins. He has not been active on meta, but that is because he is gifted with an enormous patience.

EDIT: Joel has just informed me that he unfortunately has to decline the nomination.

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Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5795) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5795#Comment_5795 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5795#Comment_5795 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:29:27 -0700 Harry Gindi @Scott: +1

I trust all of the people who have so far been nominated.

Oh, and I'll nominate Mike Shulman!

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Scott Morrison comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5790) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5790#Comment_5790 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5790#Comment_5790 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:03:41 -0700 Scott Morrison @Campaigner, yes, you're right, and that way is for Anton to remove moderation powers from a hypothetical abusive moderator. This is not a situation where elections are the appropriate mechanism for providing accountability.

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Steve Huntsman comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5789) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5789#Comment_5789 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5789#Comment_5789 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:36 -0700 Steve Huntsman
Anweshi
Reid Barton
Harrison Brown
Zev Chonoles
Gerald Edgar (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Georges Elencwajg (nominated by Kevin Lin)
fedja
*Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill (nominated by Grétar Amazeen)
Harry Gindi
Steve Huntsman
Will Jagy (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Bill Johnson
*Gil Kalai (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
*Tom Leinster (nominated by Steve Huntsman)
Michael Lugo
Akhil Mathew
Mark Meckes
Jonas Meyer
Sam Nead
*Ilya Nikokoshev
Andy Putman (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Charles Rezk (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Mike Shulman (nominated by Harry Gindi and François G Dorais)
Charles Siegel
*Hans Stricker
Mariano Suárez-Alvarez (nominated by Harry Gindi)
Douglas Zare

Other nominees who have not responded as of this edit:

*Sergei Ivanov (nominated by Campaigner)
Greg Kuperberg (nominated by Campaigner)
Deane Yang (nominated by Ilya Grigoriev)

Accepted:

Ryan Budney
*Scott Carnahan
François G Dorais
*Harald Hanche-Olsen
Kevin Lin
*Qiaochu Yuan

Declined:

*Kevin Buzzard
Yemon Choi
Pete L Clark
Hailong Dao
Emerton
*Andrea Ferretti
Joel David Hamkins
Noah Snyder
David Speyer
*Andrew Stacey ]]>
Campaigner comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5787) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5787#Comment_5787 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5787#Comment_5787 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:34 -0700 Campaigner Scott Morrison comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5786) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5786#Comment_5786 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5786#Comment_5786 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:54:25 -0700 Scott Morrison @Campaigner,

I'm not convinced that either would be a good idea. Moreover, the whole idea of "term-limits" suggests that terms should have fixed finite length, which I strongly disagree with. I think we have in mind to keep moderators on as long as they are interested and willing, and to only hold new elections when we feel that it would be better to spread the moderator workload more widely.

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Scott Morrison comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5785) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5785#Comment_5785 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5785#Comment_5785 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:52:44 -0700 Scott Morrison Hi Hailong,

at present there is huge variation in the activity of the moderators. While it's true that Anton and I have done a fair amount of programming, it's not necessarily intended that any new moderator would have an interest in this. Indeed, anyone who has the relevant skills and appropriate ideas can be active in this direction without any need to be a moderator. (Anton is the only person who can directly modify the javascript on the site, anyway.)

As far as I see it, the most desirable thing in a moderator (i.e. what I would like help with!) is an interest in keeping a regular eye on the activity of the site, in particular:

  • flags for moderator attention
  • highly-downvoted questions
  • suspicious voting patterns
  • posts by new users

(All of these are provided for in the moderator interface: 10k users can see some but not all.)

I also skim the RSS feed of all questions (I think I can claim to have "seen" every single question on the site) and click through to anything that looks problematic. Usually, these days, anything I click through to has already been discussed, commented on, or closed, as appropriate, but sometimes there's still something to do.

The really important power moderators have is to see the IP address and email addresses of (most) users. We've found it really helpful to email people, especially anytime a serious disagreement breaks out, writing something that both lays out the consensus policy, and tries to mollify and (sometimes) cajole. Sometimes I've been a little scared of doing this --- especially at some times when I know the person might reasonably consider me their "inferior" in the mathematical social order --- but it's nearly always very successful. Just have a moderator step in and offer some middle ground seems to defuse a lot of bad situations. Any time an email to an individual user goes awry in some way, the usual course is to cc all the other moderators, and have someone else try again. This gives you an easy out if your attempt to placify goes wrong.

Moderators can also suspend. In an "emergency", i.e., an active and abusive troll, it's great to have more people to be able to step in and ban people. In such a case, it's fine to act fast and recklessly -- suspensions can be reversed at any time. We've also suspended a variety of other users (maybe 12 suspensions in total so far, probably half of which have been totally clear-cut), generally those repeating asking the same question with slight variations, becoming increasingly hostile and irritated with each asking. Users with email addresses obviously deserve an email explaining the suspension. Users without email addresses simply receive less respect: that's part of the deal.

Moderators can also "close instantly", which sometimes is appropriate and saves time, but it's also dangerous (witness a few community vetoes on my closures! :-).

As Anton pointed out, it's very important that moderators keep email and IP address information private. (For example, if you email two users at once, make sure to use BCC!)

Hopefully Anton and Ben will also give answers to Hailong's question.

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Hailong Dao comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5781) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5781#Comment_5781 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5781#Comment_5781 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:53:02 -0700 Hailong Dao Thank you Harry, but you have not checked the first requirement (-: Seriously, I am going to be very busy in the near future, so I have to decline.

I think before starting this process seriously, perhaps the moderators can provide a description of what they do, how much work is involved, what are the most challenging issues, etc. For example, my impression was that Anton has to do quite a bit of programming, and on some occasions the moderators have to track down bad users, and I have no ideas what kind of work/skills that requires. Such description would help the people who will be running and the voters as well.

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François G. Dorais comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5780) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5780#Comment_5780 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5780#Comment_5780 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:48:31 -0700 François G. Dorais @Campaigner: Since there are many moderator spots, I doubt the two term limit is of any practical use.

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Campaigner comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5778) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5778#Comment_5778 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5778#Comment_5778 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:46:11 -0700 Campaigner
1. There should be an election at the end of each semester.

2. A moderator can be elected at the most twice(like the US president). Exception is made for the active founding fathers. ]]>
François G. Dorais comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5777) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5777#Comment_5777 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5777#Comment_5777 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:43:26 -0700 François G. Dorais Thanks for the nomination Harry! Though I too have some reservations, I accept the nomination.

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Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5776) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5776#Comment_5776 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5776#Comment_5776 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:25:36 -0700 Harry Gindi I nominate Hailong Dao as well. He fits all of the requirements.

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Emerton comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5773) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5773#Comment_5773 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5773#Comment_5773 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:57:33 -0700 Emerton Dear Campaigner,

Thank you very much for your kind comments. However, I am going to decline the nomination; I don't have the time right now to take on further professional responsibility (and I'm also sure that the moderator-to-be will do a much more competent job than I ever could).

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Grétar Amazeen comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5772) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5772#Comment_5772 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5772#Comment_5772 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:52:45 -0700 Grétar Amazeen I'd like to nominate José Figueroa-O'Farrill. I think he ticks all the boxes, except I have no idea if he want's to be moderator or not. Plus he is in Scotland which should help with the time-zone distribution.

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Pete L. Clark comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5767) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5767#Comment_5767 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5767#Comment_5767 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:25:16 -0700 Pete L. Clark
I appreciate being nominated, and if there are further elections in the fall of 2010, I would be pleased to be nominated again and would seriously consider accepting. ]]>
Campaigner comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5766) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5766#Comment_5766 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5766#Comment_5766 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:10:37 -0700 Campaigner
Matthew Emerton is smart, helpful and very kind and polite.

Greg Kuperberg has extensive experience with arXiv. ]]>
Steve Huntsman comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5765) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5765#Comment_5765 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5765#Comment_5765 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:47:03 -0700 Steve Huntsman
Update: after looking at my own list below, I would also like to nominate

Gerald Edgar
Harald Hanche-Olsen (Norway)
Gil Kalai (part-time in Israel, part-time in US)
Tom Leinster (UK) ]]>
Harry Gindi comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5761) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5761#Comment_5761 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5761#Comment_5761 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:00:58 -0700 Harry Gindi Andrew Stacey - Experience moderating the nForum and nLab, has experience with javascript and PHP, very active on meta, knowledgeable, votes to close questions in line with the FAQ, in useful timezone.

Yemon Choi - Knowledgeable, very active on meta, votes to close questions in line with the FAQ

Pete L. Clark - (declined) - Highest rep user, knowledgeable, very active on meta.

François G. Dorais - (accepted) - Very active on meta, knowledgeable, votes to close questions in line with the FAQ

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez - Has experience as an operator on an IRC channel, knowledgeable, votes to close questions in line with the FAQ, fairly active on meta.

Scott Carnahan - Knowledgeable, usually votes in line with the FAQ.

David Speyer - (declined)

Hailong Dao - (declined)

I hope you guys don't mind me sizing you up =p.

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Anton Geraschenko comments on "MOderator election nominations" (5759) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5759#Comment_5759 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/426/moderator-election-nominations/?Focus=5759#Comment_5759 Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:08:35 -0700 Anton Geraschenko We're going to have a MOderator election. To discuss how the election should work, go to this other thread. The purpose of this thread is to produce a pretty complete list of candidates, so that when we post a question on MO itself, we can post all the "answers" right away, so it will be minimally disruptive. If there's somebody you think would make a good moderator, post a comment here, perhaps with a short blurb. Please do not use this thread to vote. If you want to support (or anti-support) a nomination, there will be a time for that later. If somebody nominates you, please post a comment accepting or declining the nomination.

Candidates should

  • want to be moderators,
  • be patient, fair, respectful,
  • preferably have >1500 rep,
  • preferably be active on meta.

Moderator powers will be granted to an existing account; the new moderator won't start a separate account for moderation purposes. Remember that moderator powers come with significant responsibility. Moderators can close questions, lock/delete posts, and suspend users, but much of the job takes place "behind the scenes." Moderators contact people off-site to resolve difficult situations quietly. In particular, moderators have access to user emails and IP addresses and are expected to keep this kind of non-public information private.

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