tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (Voted to delete) Sun, 04 Nov 2018 13:48:39 -0800 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 & Feed Publisher Andreas Blass comments on "Voted to delete" (17950) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17950#Comment_17950 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17950#Comment_17950 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:35:56 -0800 Andreas Blass Bill Johnson comments on "Voted to delete" (17946) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17946#Comment_17946 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17946#Comment_17946 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:10:30 -0800 Bill Johnson

> But there is a sarcastic answer which seems to be written specifically to embarrass the questioner. >

I assume you mean Mark Sapir's answer, which I did not find at all antagonistic to the OP but rather an attempt to show what is wrong with the question itself.

If you want to attribute bad motives to a user ("which seems to be written specifically to embarrass the questioner") you should have the courage to accuse under your real name.

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Anonymous User comments on "Voted to delete" (17945) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17945#Comment_17945 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17945#Comment_17945 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:50:01 -0800 Anonymous User François G. Dorais comments on "Voted to delete" (17940) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17940#Comment_17940 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17940#Comment_17940 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:28:30 -0800 François G. Dorais Bill, these undeletions are the result of complaints from other community members. (Many of whom prefer not to participate on meta.) I appreciate the work of all community members. Unfortunately, it is also part of my role to mediate between community members with potentially conflicting interests, so I must sometimes make decisions that are not appreciated by everyone. I do my best to find a reasonable mediation point on a case-by-case basis.

I think my only guideline, which is not to delete questions with potentially significant answers without permission from the author, is reasonably clear and sound. Moderators do this when deleting stuff, and we also regularly undelete questions deleted by their owners for the same reason (see here).

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Bill Johnson comments on "Voted to delete" (17939) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17939#Comment_17939 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17939#Comment_17939 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:48:36 -0800 Bill Johnson Francois, on the one hand you want help from 10K users in cleaning up MO and on the other hand you complain about what they do. I suggest that you stick to your policy on locking and let the community work out what posts should remain. If three 10K users agree that a post should not remain deleted, your locking policy guarantees that it will not be deleted.

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François G. Dorais comments on "Voted to delete" (17938) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17938#Comment_17938 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17938#Comment_17938 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 07:12:36 -0800 François G. Dorais After more complaints, I again undeleted several questions with significant answers. One with 45 votes this time!

Please do not delete questions with potentially significant answers without first asking permission from the authors of these answers.

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Tom Leinster comments on "Voted to delete" (17933) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17933#Comment_17933 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17933#Comment_17933 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:57:38 -0800 Tom Leinster "Crackpottery" should clearly have two, so "crackpottish" wins my vote.

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Andreas Blass comments on "Voted to delete" (17932) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17932#Comment_17932 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17932#Comment_17932 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:35:54 -0800 Andreas Blass
(At the risk of setting off an even fiercer dispute: How many t's should there be in "crackpotish"? I just copied Kevin's spelling, because my dictionary, perhaps wisely, refuses to consider the matter.) ]]>
markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17931) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17931#Comment_17931 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17931#Comment_17931 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:21:05 -0800 markvs Bill Johnson comments on "Voted to delete" (17930) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17930#Comment_17930 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17930#Comment_17930 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:25:55 -0800 Bill Johnson Your policy on locking closed threads and deleted threads looks reasonable to me, Francois.

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quid comments on "Voted to delete" (17929) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17929#Comment_17929 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17929#Comment_17929 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:40:55 -0800 quid

Apparently votes to [un]delete can be repeated (unlike votes to close), so this oscillation between deleted and undeleted could go on indefinitely.

I was completely unaware of this; I thought this was like for open/close. If I had known this my opinion would have been clear from the start (as opposed to undecided). In my opinion this obvioulsy implies that deletion should only happen in very clear cases or after discussion that leads to this conclusion essentially without oposition. If not this ccould lead to complete chaos. [Added: or significant extra work for the moderators]

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François G. Dorais comments on "Voted to delete" (17928) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17928#Comment_17928 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17928#Comment_17928 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:35:38 -0800 François G. Dorais Since 43397 went back and forth a few times, it has been undeleted and locked. (The default for deletion wars is 'undelete' and the default for closing wars is 'close'.) The question is likely to stay locked indefinitely, but feel free to continue the discussion here.

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Kevin Walker comments on "Voted to delete" (17926) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17926#Comment_17926 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17926#Comment_17926 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:58:57 -0800 Kevin Walker The question has been deleted and undeleted several times in the last few days. (At the moment it's deleted, so I can't give exact numbers.) Apparently votes to [un]delete can be repeated (unlike votes to close), so this oscillation between deleted and undeleted could go on indefinitely. Perhaps the moderators should step in and propose/announce a policy for deleting non-spammy questions like this.

In answer to Andy Putman's question far above, I would propose limiting deletions to cases where the question, answers (if any) and comments (if any) are all clearly spammy/undergrad-homeworkish/crackpotish. If reasonable people might disagree on whether a question is in this class, then it shouldn't be deleted. I think the site would function just fine if there were no deletions at all.

Imagine a world in which the stackexchange software allowed only moderators to delete. Would MO be a disaster and unusable in this case? Of course not. I think that such a set up would be much preferable to the current situation, where any three easily irritated 10k users can delete a question.

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17925) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17925#Comment_17925 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17925#Comment_17925 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 06:19:24 -0800 markvs Mariano comments on "Voted to delete" (17924) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17924#Comment_17924 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17924#Comment_17924 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:49:49 -0800 Mariano (My favorite example of prime numbers in nature is the following: when I go to my gim, I have to give a card to a guy sitting at a desk near the front door; at any given time, he has quite a few of them, and as he gets bored he plays with the cards, sometimes arranging them in rectangular arrays and rearranging them, and so on---a kind of solitaire; I once heard him make the observation to another guy that someones he can't make a real rectangular array, only one which is 1 x something or something x 1 and that that is very annoying, so he waits for someone to come or leave. He is annoyed by prime numbers getting in the way!)

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gilkalai comments on "Voted to delete" (17923) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17923#Comment_17923 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17923#Comment_17923 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:51:23 -0800 gilkalai
Regarding the question: It is an interesting question if prime number occurs in nature, and as the OP explained he didn't mean the occurrence of prime numbers just by coincidence - but because they are prime. The cicadas example seems like a serious one. As I understood there was no additional serious example in the answers. There was an answer elaborating on the cicadas example (which is welcome), and another answer criticizing this examle (which is also good if it was of good quality). There were also some answers joking about the question. And eventually the question was closed. For people who find it interesting this can be a useful source, for other people I dont see how this question can be of any harm. You can compare it to a question about practical applications (in real life) of prime numbers. Such a question do have mathematical content. I am aware of one answer (cryptography) but perhaps there are more. The 7-11 joke still applies. ]]>
Mariano comments on "Voted to delete" (17922) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17922#Comment_17922 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17922#Comment_17922 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:35:20 -0800 Mariano To be honest, the phenomenon described by Bill that

[certain] researchers who choose not to participate because of irrelevancies on the site

where irrelevancies means the occasional silly question, does not seem to me that important. I of course wish as many relevant people participate in the site, but I also expect people to be able to filter out a modicum of things they do not care for—even an Eminently Unimportant Mathematician like me manages to deal with it (I can't remember the last time one of my 'favorite tags' showed up in a question, although I know they do work because a semester ago a question by Kevin Lin appeared in yellow...)

I don't think the aspiration to have everyone on board is reasonable, and if some people are not willing to participate in the site, well, we will read their papers.

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17920) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17920#Comment_17920 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17920#Comment_17920 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:30:33 -0800 markvs markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17919) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17919#Comment_17919 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17919#Comment_17919 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:22:34 -0800 markvs quid comments on "Voted to delete" (17918) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17918#Comment_17918 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17918#Comment_17918 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:19:02 -0800 quid I have still not completely made up my mind regarding the deletions, but in view of what Bill Johnson said, I have a question:

In what way will deletions of closed month-old questions or also if it happens more quickly affect whether, to give a current example, user Mike Massa asks questions and they are thus on the front page for a while?

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Michael Greinecker comments on "Voted to delete" (17917) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17917#Comment_17917 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17917#Comment_17917 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:13:49 -0800 Michael Greinecker gilkalai comments on "Voted to delete" (17916) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17916#Comment_17916 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17916#Comment_17916 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:08:50 -0800 gilkalai (I did not know about the cicada example but I vaguely remember that around IAS there are some insects that are active once every 17 years.) ]]> Bill Johnson comments on "Voted to delete" (17915) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17915#Comment_17915 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17915#Comment_17915 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:08:39 -0800 Bill Johnson On the front page with the "newest" option there are 7 closed questions and at least two more that I guess will be closed soon. It is no wonder that many serious mathematicians take one look at MO and do not come back. Like Mark, I know researchers who choose not to participate because of irrelevancies on the site. Some lurk occasionally, but they no doubt miss threads that would be interesting due to the accumulation of irrelevant questions.

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17914) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17914#Comment_17914 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17914#Comment_17914 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:56:33 -0800 markvs Angelo comments on "Voted to delete" (17913) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17913#Comment_17913 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17913#Comment_17913 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:55:14 -0800 Angelo
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Finding primes in signals is seen as a sign of some kind of intelligence - see e.g. the role of primes in the search for extraterrestrial life (see e.g. here).
This is because there are relatively few examples of numbers that appear in nature because they are prime. One example of the use of prime numbers in nature is as an evolutionary strategy used by cicadas of the genus Magicicada (see e.g. here or here: [1])

My question:
Do you know of any other instances where prime numbers occur in nature? Could you please also give a source/link - and perhaps some background. Thank you.

[1] Goles, E., Schulz, O. and M. Markus (2001). "Prime number selection of cycles in a predator-prey model", Complexity 6(4): 33-38


Edit: Obviously many people misunderstood me. I didn't mean the occurrence of prime numbers just by coincidence - but because they are prime. The cicadas example - although being controversial - at least hints at some kind of evolutionary strategy. ]]>
Bill Johnson comments on "Voted to delete" (17912) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17912#Comment_17912 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17912#Comment_17912 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:44:01 -0800 Bill Johnson Gil, the question was to give examples where prime numbers occur in nature. There were six answers, only one of which was substantive, and it simply and shortly described the cicada phenomenon, which had already been mention by the OP. This answer received 10 upvotes and the question itself 16 upvotes.

There is, IMO, zero mathematical content in the thread.

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quid comments on "Voted to delete" (17911) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17911#Comment_17911 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17911#Comment_17911 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:41:21 -0800 quid @Gil Kalai: a rough answer from memeory, no guarantee for correctnes. Score question +16. Two answers with lower score (3 maybe) but on-topic. Roughly the question was whether there are/to collect examples of prime numbers in nature. Giving as initially starting point, or was this an asnwer, an example of the now much discussed cicadas, different types of which have developmental cycles the duration of which in years are different prime

[ADDED: Sorry regarding the answers I was apparently completely off.]

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gilkalai comments on "Voted to delete" (17910) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17910#Comment_17910 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17910#Comment_17910 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:23:57 -0800 gilkalai Tom Leinster comments on "Voted to delete" (17905) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17905#Comment_17905 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17905#Comment_17905 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 07:30:43 -0800 Tom Leinster Mark, I've moved our off-topic conversation to the n-Category Café, where it continues.

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17904) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17904#Comment_17904 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17904#Comment_17904 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:52:35 -0800 markvs
About our paper with Guba: look at the dunce hat example. It is exactly the definition of F that you give. ]]>
Tom Leinster comments on "Voted to delete" (17903) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17903#Comment_17903 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17903#Comment_17903 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:37:18 -0800 Tom Leinster Mark, I still think that deleting is the wrong response. Closing already indicates that the question is not appropriate. Personally, I'm not even sure it should have been closed. I'd prefer it if it had been edited to make it better.

I'll say something about why I think this question is interesting (although not phrased particularly well). Mathematics has always been inspired by mathematical phenomena appearing in nature. By "nature" I mean everything in the physical world - physics, chemistry, biology etc., though for the purposes of this discussion I exclude human activity. There are examples of inverse square laws in nature, there are examples of exponential decay, and so on. Maybe there are directly observable examples of modified Bessel functions: who knows. Looking at how mathematics appears in nature often leads to new mathematics: take string theory, for instance, which may or may not be a good physical theory, but has certainly led to advances in mathematics.

So I think questions of the form "does such-and-such a piece of mathematics appear in nature?" are potentially interesting. Of course you could ask an unlimited number of such questions, but what makes this one stand out is that (i) there appears to be at least one example of prime numbers popping up non-coincidentally, and (ii) there don't appear to be so many examples that it's boring.

Out of interest, how would the pro-deletion people react to a question along the following lines? "I've been investigating such-and-such an abstract dynamical system, and when I ran some numerics on it, I discovered to my surprise that the period was always a prime number of units of time. Are there other examples of dynamical systems with unexpected prime number periodicity?" That's not phrased enormously well either, but would you consider a question of this type so beyond the pale that it deserved deletion?

Regarding the off-topic matter, if you have an easy deduction of the result described in that n-Category Café post from the result in your paper with Guba, I'd like to see it. I tried to find one years ago, when Fiore and I first did that work, but with no success: I couldn't see a direct way of deducing either characterization from the other. I also discussed this with Guba when he was visiting Glasgow in about 2005. But let's continue this discussion at the Café.

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17901) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17901#Comment_17901 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17901#Comment_17901 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:30:46 -0800 markvs gilkalai comments on "Voted to delete" (17900) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17900#Comment_17900 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17900#Comment_17900 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:10:48 -0800 gilkalai " (I can give you concrete examples)"

Mark, I must admit that I find this hard to believe, but since I would like to keep my mind open about this possibility, please do give me concrete examples either here or privately to gil.kalai@gmail.com ]]>
markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17899) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17899#Comment_17899 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17899#Comment_17899 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:02:44 -0800 markvs
On a completely different matter. I just looked at your Web site and found this note: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/category/2010/01/f_and_the_shibboleth.html. Isn't this the same characterization of F as in http://front.math.ucdavis.edu/0301.5225 ? Sorry for the offtopic. ]]>
gilkalai comments on "Voted to delete" (17898) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17898#Comment_17898 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17898#Comment_17898 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:00:16 -0800 gilkalai Tom Leinster comments on "Voted to delete" (17897) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17897#Comment_17897 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17897#Comment_17897 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 05:26:34 -0800 Tom Leinster I don't think questions should be deleted if multiple high-reputation users want to keep them. I'd go so far as to say that if even one high-reputation user (and you can't get any higher than JDH) has expressed an interest in keeping a question on the site, it should be kept. I wish the voting system implemented that rule.

Mark, Andy, Bill, and others who want to delete this, you may not be able to understand what value others see in this question, but you'll observed that others do see value in it. I think that under those circumstances, it would be respectful not to prevent everyone from reading it.

The fact that there were almost no interesting answers is interesting in itself. Maybe the famous cicadas really are the only known instance of this phenomenon. Judging this question to be a failure for that reason is like judging a scientific experiment to be a failure because it did not produce the result expected.

I wasn't very impressed, either, with the unconstructive tone of some of the answers. Yes, the OP could have been clearer about the term "nature" and the role of coincidence, but I thought it was pretty obvious what was meant. If the question is undeleted I might have a go at improving it.

I think deletion should be kept for obvious homework questions that receive no answer, spam, and the like.

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Michael Greinecker comments on "Voted to delete" (17896) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17896#Comment_17896 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17896#Comment_17896 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 04:34:52 -0800 Michael Greinecker peter.krautzberger comments on "Voted to delete" (17895) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17895#Comment_17895 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17895#Comment_17895 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:27:38 -0800 peter.krautzberger +1 for JDH.

I think the "a real mathematician" argument flawed. In fact, a closed question reflects better on MO since it shows that the community is able to identify poor questions (it also shows how politely (or not) people react to poor questions). An aseptic community is not attractive and might be argued to discourage just as many people.

If at some point the software can be improved again, it might make sense to prevent such questions from appearing on positive lists (such as "most votes"). Although they might serve their purpose in searches since they discourage the repetition of poor questions.

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Andy Putman comments on "Voted to delete" (17894) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17894#Comment_17894 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17894#Comment_17894 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:23:49 -0800 Andy Putman Kevin Walker comments on "Voted to delete" (17893) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17893#Comment_17893 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17893#Comment_17893 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:56:51 -0800 Kevin Walker +1 JDH. I think simply closing inappropriate questions is almost always sufficient, and I find the arguments in favor of being more aggressive with deletions to be very unconvincing. My impression is that this has not been much of an issue until very recently; in other words, MO got along just fine for two years using deletion only minimally. I see no compelling need to change course and start deleting any question which irritates three 10k users.

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17892) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17892#Comment_17892 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17892#Comment_17892 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:35:28 -0800 markvs François G. Dorais comments on "Voted to delete" (17891) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17891#Comment_17891 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17891#Comment_17891 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:35:14 -0800 François G. Dorais After some complaints, I undeleted some questions that had answers with at least 5 votes, some with 10 or more votes. It would be preferable to ask permission from the authors before deleting their potentially significant answers.

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quid comments on "Voted to delete" (17889) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17889#Comment_17889 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17889#Comment_17889 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:25:08 -0800 quid I do not have much against the deletions though I'd wish the process was a bit more transparent (this is actually a positive example, thank you Mark Sapir).

Yet, the gleefullnes and the feeling of superiority some display in doing so is a bit shocking.

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Bill Johnson comments on "Voted to delete" (17888) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17888#Comment_17888 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17888#Comment_17888 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:01:37 -0800 Bill Johnson I had the privilege of casting the final vote to delete. If that gets rid of the cicadas in my yard, that is a +++.

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Andy Putman comments on "Voted to delete" (17887) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17887#Comment_17887 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17887#Comment_17887 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:55:43 -0800 Andy Putman Mariano comments on "Voted to delete" (17886) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17886#Comment_17886 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17886#Comment_17886 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:50:12 -0800 Mariano The question in question has 16 votes... The Real Mathematician would have to go to page 29 of the list of most upvoted questions to find it—I am sure a Real Mathematician has more Important Things to do than that!

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17885) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17885#Comment_17885 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17885#Comment_17885 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:42:49 -0800 markvs markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17884) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17884#Comment_17884 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17884#Comment_17884 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:35:11 -0800 markvs Tom Leinster comments on "Voted to delete" (17883) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17883#Comment_17883 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17883#Comment_17883 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:25:31 -0800 Tom Leinster +1 JDH. Isn't closing enough?

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François G. Dorais comments on "Voted to delete" (17882) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17882#Comment_17882 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17882#Comment_17882 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:24:43 -0800 François G. Dorais Mark, if you can't distinguish between MO and your backyard...

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markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17881) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17881#Comment_17881 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17881#Comment_17881 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:22:31 -0800 markvs markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17880) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17880#Comment_17880 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17880#Comment_17880 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:18:45 -0800 markvs JDH comments on "Voted to delete" (17879) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17879#Comment_17879 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17879#Comment_17879 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:06:46 -0800 JDH
I would have liked to see some mathematical physicists answer the current question by explaining the importance of primality in various fundamental theories. Surely it comes into string theory in various ways, and I would also have liked to learn of any other examples like the cicadas, if there were any. ]]>
Andres Caicedo comments on "Voted to delete" (17878) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17878#Comment_17878 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17878#Comment_17878 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:39:27 -0800 Andres Caicedo markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17877) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17877#Comment_17877 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17877#Comment_17877 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:28:46 -0800 markvs Andres Caicedo comments on "Voted to delete" (17876) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17876#Comment_17876 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17876#Comment_17876 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:25:05 -0800 Andres Caicedo markvs comments on "Voted to delete" (17875) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17875#Comment_17875 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1262/voted-to-delete/?Focus=17875#Comment_17875 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:07:21 -0800 markvs