tea.mathoverflow.net - Discussion Feed (Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions) Sun, 04 Nov 2018 13:49:01 -0800 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 & Feed Publisher geraldedgar comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17218) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17218#Comment_17218 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17218#Comment_17218 Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:21:16 -0800 geraldedgar @Quid: So we need a name other than "featured" for these, if indeed they will usually be "boring but somewhat tedious". Perhaps the honest name "bounty".

]]> quid comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17210) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17210#Comment_17210 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17210#Comment_17210 Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:25:14 -0800 quid IMO more or less however one changes this bounty system it will never be a good fit for MO.

On the one hand due to the relative small size of the site; it is perfectly feasible to roughly keep track of all questions that get asked so increasing visibility seems not that important; or if this is needed the current system works well enough and an expiry date is desirable.

On the other hand due to the nature of the subject. IMO the only type of question where a bounty is really useful is 'boring but somewhat tedious.' If I find something interesting and can answer it I will do so. If I can answer something easily I will do so. The question is what do I do if I could answer but find it tedious (where tedious is everything above several minutes); then those points might or might not be a motivation (actually that I'd gain the points would not be that much of a motvation but that somebody is willing to spend them might convince me of the relative relevance of the question and motivate me; yet then it is also sufficient I once saw them and then anything I can do but do not find the time to do within seven days is mostlikely so tedious I would not do it anyway).

]]> Bill Johnson comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17208) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17208#Comment_17208 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17208#Comment_17208 Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:51:25 -0800 Bill Johnson I agree. There should be no time limits for bounties.

]]> theojf comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17197) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17197#Comment_17197 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17197#Comment_17197 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:35:21 -0800 theojf I strongly agree with other commenters that we should add "longer bounties" to the official feature request list (if such a list exists). It's certainly on my request list.

]]> fedja comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17192) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17192#Comment_17192 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17192#Comment_17192 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 06:36:28 -0800 fedja Alexander Woo comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17182) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17182#Comment_17182 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17182#Comment_17182 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:53:18 -0800 Alexander Woo I agree 7 days is too short. I had a question which took a month to get an answer, and then got a very useful answer. Since then I haven't really had the time to follow up on the answer; it wouldn't surprise me if the paper that the answer will eventually help me in writing doesn't show up until sometime in 2013.

]]> quid comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17179) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17179#Comment_17179 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17179#Comment_17179 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:57:58 -0800 quid @Bill Johnson: This does not appear to be Gil Kalai's only motivation, see http://mathoverflow.net/questions/4994/fundamental-examples

]]> Bill Johnson comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17178) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17178#Comment_17178 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17178#Comment_17178 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:36:28 -0800 Bill Johnson Yeah, but you did it because the questions are HARD, Gil.

]]> gilkalai comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17176) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17176#Comment_17176 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17176#Comment_17176 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:22:07 -0800 gilkalai geraldedgar comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17175) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17175#Comment_17175 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17175#Comment_17175 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:03:22 -0800 geraldedgar Actually, most of the bounty questions that have appeared on MO are not great questions, but instead questions of such low interest that they had to have a bounty added to attract any attention at all. Thus, in my opinion, it is not something to be encouraged.

]]> Qiaochu Yuan comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17174) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17174#Comment_17174 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17174#Comment_17174 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:40:25 -0800 Qiaochu Yuan Unfortunately, the length of bounties is fixed in the software and we don't have the ability to change it.

]]> pietro majer comments on "Isn't 7 days too short period for bounties of featured questions" (17173) http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17173#Comment_17173 http://mathoverflow.tqft.net/discussion/1215/isnt-7-days-too-short-period-for-bounties-of-featured-questions/?Focus=17173#Comment_17173 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:37:30 -0800 pietro majer
I think the idea of featured questions is great. Providing incentives to answer harder questions certainly improves
the quality of the contributions, and may even lead to collaborations between users.

But, I see that this opportunity is not very used, and featured questions are very few (2-3 per week) compared
to the much larger number of questions per week (200-300 per week). In terms of bounty, it's 300-400 points
per week, a very exiguous portion of the total amount of rep points created in the same period.
As a matter of fact, MO users do not invest in research. A bit embarrassing, isn't it?

It seems to me that at the moment, the main objection to put a bounty on one's question is that the bounty on
a question only lasts 7 days, then expires. But a week is too a short period to think to a hard problem --especially
because here most of us dedicate to MO spare-time, mainly in the week-ends. As a result, sometimes the invested
points will be lost, with no or unsatisfactory answer.

So, I would suggest to adjust this rule, considering a longer expiration period, or even no expiration period at all
(ideally, a long-standing question should even increase its value in time).

Thanks,
Pietro Majer ]]>