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    I'm thinking of posting the following question on MO, but wasn't totally sure if it's kosher or not.

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    Sometime in the past year or so MSRI redid their website, and as far as I can tell they removed all of their videos from before fall of 2004. But perhaps I'm not looking in the right place. I tried emailing MSRI, but they haven't returned my email. So I figured I'd try asking here as someone might know whether these videos have been removed permanently or where I can find them. I have included my attempts to find them below.


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    MSRI's <a href="http://www.msri.org/web/msri/online-videos">new video page</a> doesn't have a link for things before Fall 2004, while on their old website <a href="http://archive.msri.org/communications/vmath/index_html">this webpage</a> the link to "videos before Fall 2004" is broken. If you search by speaker and find an old video (which I know exists because I've watched it before) I get <a href="http://www.msri.org/web/msri/online-videos/-/video/showVideo/140">this message</a>:"We're sorry, a video for this talk does not currently exist or may be part of our older archive." But there's no link to any "older archive." A few of their older videos are <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/msri">available from archive.org</a>, but there don't seem to be very many and they're difficult to search through.
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    I think your question is fine (but of course my most popular question is about finding ICM talks, so may be I am a little biased (-: )

    • CommentAuthorEmerton
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2011
     

    Dear Noah,

    Please ask this!

    Best wishes,

    Matt

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    Who did you email? (Go ahead and ask, community-wiki'd presumably; but it does seem like contacting the right people directly might be most effective.)

    Dave Auckly (the associate director, tel: 510-642-0143 email: auckly@msri.org) just posted to the Berkeley mailing list asking for help videotaping something, so there's at least someone running the show who's recently thought about videos. I'll bug him if he comes to topology seminar tomorrow.

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    I just emailed the general info address. Probably there's someone better to contact, but I don't personally know the people at MSRI and I didn't know who would know anything about the redesign.
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    Anyway, sounds like the question is fine, so I'll ask it eventually, but I'll probably wait a few days to see if I can sort this out through contacting the right person (or Scott running into people).
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    Loathe as I am to disagree with Scott, I don't think that this is a good fit for MO. The set of people who can answer this question is known, namely the people on this list, and anyone not on that list hasn't a hope of definitively answering the question. The most likely answer is "I heard a rumour that they've been sued by Scott Morrison for posting a video of him standing on chairs in his seminar in 2007 so they decided to pull all the videos from their site.", but without any way of verifying that - except by confirmation from someone on the known list - there's no way to attach any value to that answer.

    I would vote to close as "off topic" or "not a real question" (I note that there isn't even a question mark!).

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    I 'm with Andrew in principle, but I think Noah's plan to "wait a few days to see if I can sort this out through contacting the right person" is a pretty reasonable attempt to exhaust the canonical method of obtaining this information before posting it on MO.

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    My vote is for this question to be asked!
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    The director of MSRI has just started to participate on MO, so you might be able to get an answer.
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    Found a better person to email at MSRI (Kelly Chi) who replied promptly. Here's the link:
    http://www.msri.org/web/msri/online-videos/-/video/showSemester/pre2004
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    I can't get anything linked from there to play. From memory back then they used "Real Player" to show their videos, but I'm not even able to get the little file that Real Player would use to start streaming. Clicking on a video link just results in my browser downloading a file called "real.cgi", which just contains a line of text, a URL of the form

    http://real.msri.org:8181/ramgen/msri/2003/halgebra/yuzvinsky/1/video.rm

    Copying and pasting that link back into my browser downloads a (tiny) file called video.rm, which I can successfully open with VLC, which begins streaming the video from MSRI. Phew!

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    Nice. I had trouble figuring out how to tell VLC the location, and RealPlayer 11 for OSX is not compatible with MSRI's videos. However, after failing to find RealPlayer 10 for OSX anywhere on the internet, I realized that I still had a copy of the RealPlayer 10 .dmg file on my computer. But it's good to know that VLC works.
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    As it turns out, I really just wanted to look at the slide labelled "Key Technique: Modular Splitting Principal."

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