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    Just a headsup for everyone.

    I woke up this morning to find Springer changing their model for their Encyclopedia of Mathematics and in the process breaking all existing links to eom.springer.com.

    I know quite a few of us (semi-)regularly cite the Springer EOM for definitions and what-nots in posts and comments (yours truly included). This move most likely has caused some severe breakage to the readability of some posts. (And with comments not editable....)

    The problem is that the original Springer EOM pages had different naming scheme at the level of the URL, so I suspect it is not quite possible for Anton to just do a glob on the database and replace the links to their new names (it would probably require a bit of hacking up a perl script and a copy of the complete index of the original EOM).

    So in the event that Springer does not realise what they've done and repaired the links, we as a community will probably need to keep an eye out for old, broken, EOM links and replace them with new ones.

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    Can you point me to a post with an eom.springer.com link in it? I seem to be unable to find them.

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    François' google link gives 'about 72 results'. A motivated person (or team of people) with enough rep can go through and fix these manually if they wanted to - but not all at once otherwise the front page will get swamped with old questions. I don't mind doing some fixing if this is what we want to do.

    Edit: well, some EOM links in MO answers are just urls (e.g. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/74959 ), and so unless some time travel is involved it might be hard to figure out what they were linking to.
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    grep 'eom\.springer' posts.xml (run on last month's database dump; this month's is in progress) returns only 70 hits, so it shouldn't be a huge deal to fix. For ambiguous ones (like the one DavidRoberts point out), we could just leave a comment asking the owner to update the post.

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    Google has the old links cached, so the answer mentioned by DavidRoberts links http://eom.springer.de/s/s084990.htm which should now be http://www.encyclopediaofmath.org/index.php?title=Siegel_domain and http://eom.springer.de/h/h047630.htm which should be http://www.encyclopediaofmath.org/index.php?title=Homogeneous_bounded_domain . It would be rather tedious to do this if there are lots of ambiguous links.
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    @George - not to mention the time limit on how long google keeps the cache.

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    @DavidRoberts: This site seems to work for out of date links http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
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    I just noticed that they revampled their site recently. When I click on the link, at first it seems to hang asking for the 'script' to stop. Just wanted to bring attention to this.
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    btw, here's the list of all posts with eom links as of December 1 (generated with grep 'eom\.springer' posts.xml | sed -e 's|.* Id="\([0-9]*\)".*|[\1](http://mathoverflow.net/questions/\1)|' from the latest database dump)

    [Edit: corrected error in command; see post by darijgrinberg below. Thanks for the correction]

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    Anton, your sed collects the wrong Id numbers (apparently the last in each line, or something like that). Replace "Id" by "\ Id" to get the right links:

    EDIT: now from the right file, too (latest public dump)

    600 2191 2321 4287 5333 5669 5897 6632 6642 8175 8812 8978 10441 10484 11324 12955 13346 14298 14579 14848 16268 18566 19772 20217 20268 24802 25925 27426 28364 29165 29273 29351 30276 34144 34743 34924 35452 36050 37776 37824 40130 40824 41181 41544 42686 43318 52304 52440 54531 54649 56058 57474 60535 60903 60904 62535 65121 65561 65991 66046 66303 66813 67291 68527 68980 71013 71283 72538 73417 74959 78169 78535 78816 78969 80283 81597 81848

    • CommentAuthornbrothers
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2012
     
    Hi,

    I'm the Springer product manager for the new EOM site.

    All of the previously dead links should now have correct redirects set up.

    - Nathan Brothers
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    Great, thanks Nathan!

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