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Reference: Part I of the question, and Part II of the question.
My feeling is that Part II is purely a discussion question. I also find the motivation distasteful, though I may have misunderstood it: "Because the display was getting quite cluttered, I thought I'd post a second part to this question separately." I admit that I haven't carefully read Part I, but this suggests to me that it was also purely a discussion question.
In a comment on Part II, Gjergji Zaimi said "I feel that you just discovered, what's being repeated over and over: that MO doesn't have the right format for long discussions" and fpqc said "I [am] concerned about the discussion-y nature of the question and the fact that it was motivated by the other thread filling up". I agree with these, but Pete Clark also said "I find your question to be appropriate and interesting, and I look forward to reading the answers", so maybe it's not as clear-cut a bad question for MO as I think. Then again, maybe that comment was meant as encouragement since the question was being attacked in the comments a bit.
Deane Yang commented "I also vote to keep this question. If anything, MathOverflow should find a way to foster discussions like this." I disagree with that comment. I don't think MO should try to be a discussion forum.
For reference, here are two threads here on meta about discussion-y questions and why we discourage them on MO.
Quote from the OP:
The long paragraphs above notwithstanding, the pedagogical question isn't something I lose sleep over. But it would be nice to have a few concrete and systematic ideas to use. They would certainly help me to understand the subject better!
The above is clearly asking for concrete suggestions on a pedagogical issue. People can give answers in the usual way. If someone has an objection to some answer, there may be some hullabaloo in the comments thread for that answer. But that does not distract much, does it?
A mathematics-education tag might be appropriate. Again this question is probably better as community wiki. But of course, the OP is not an intensive MO user yet; so he might not have yet figured out stuff like community wiki and all.
@Ben Webster. Perhaps the OP wishes to be more authoritative in his two blogs(which by the way appears to be shared blogs) which are focussed on the areas of his expertise. Since algebraic topology is not his chief topic of investigation, he might be asking it here instead.
I am not particularly attached to this question; it is alright with me if it is closed in the end. I am laboring so much merely to make sure that a relative newcomer is given a more friendly reception.
That is not an algebraic topology question.
I think the question would be fine if it were made CW. Like Regenbogen, I read it as a pedagogical question: how do you reconcile to students all this abstraction about open sets vs. all these concrete details about, say, 2-manifolds which, on the surface (pardon the pun), don't seem to depend on the "low-level" details of how you implement topological spaces?
As for Minhyong's blogs, the question doesn't seem to fit at either of them.
I have a response, but I guess I'll just shut up out of respect for someone more established/senior/experienced than myself and to avoid making Dr. Clark feel any more embarrassed and/or ashamed.
@Pedant, @fpqc, I have just deleted your last two comments. They do not constitute constructive discussion of anything. I'm happy to discuss this matter via email, and hopefully we can return to this thread once everyone has calmed down.
I'll just note: the moderators respond to all inappropriate behavior by users, when it is brought to our attention. We don't patrol the site 24/7, we don't see everything that goes on here, we're not Big Brother. If you have concerns about a user's behavior, email us with examples of what they have said.
It looks like Scott and Ben have already addressed Pedant's (abusive) comment. As Ben suggested, we deal with inappropriate user behavior in private; drama-filled public attacks here on meta are wasteful and ineffective. If you have concerns about the behavior of any user, please contact us by email.
There was one point in Pedant's comment that I want to respond to: I should have made it clearer that I agree with some of fpqc's points but not with his approach in presenting those points. In general, I think it's a good policy to try to restrict to one "meta" comment* per post, and make it a good one (e.g. leave a single comment explaining as clearly as possible why you're voting to close). If you want leave another "meta" comment, just start a thread here on meta.MO and post a link to it. That's what meta.MO is for.
*A "meta" comment is one that has to do with the policy or mechanics of MO rather than the mathematics in the post.
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