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    • CommentAuthorAndy Putman
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2010 edited
     
    @Bill : Since you insisted on having the last word (and insulting Noah's intelligence), it seems a bit rich to plead with us to stop this.

    In any case, I'm done with this thread. Somehow I can never resist arguing with bullies, though given how unproductive those arguments are, you'd think I'd have learned by now...
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    @Andy: Perhaps Noah should read wrote Pete wrote above before basing his opinions on impartial information. I never mentioned Pete anywhere in this thread before he jumped in and posted (unfounded) insulting remarks. I think too many people are placing too much value on "high MO rep" . Simply because someone behaves nicely here does not imply that they do the same on other forums.
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    @Bill, I don't particularly care much about anyone's behavior on other forums, and yes, I (with my moderator hat on) condone Mariano's action here. He made a minor copyedit, following usual conventions. It appears that there was a problem with simultaneous editing, for which no one is to blame.

    Let's get back to the mathematics, eh?

    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2010 edited
     

    Let's get back to the mathematics, eh?

    Says the fake Canadian, eh?

    ;)

    • CommentAuthorEmerton
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2010
     

    Dear Harry,

    Australian, actually.

    Cheers,

    Matthew

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    @Scott: Do you also condone Pete L. Clark's jumping into this thread with unprovoked insults as above? The mind boggles...
    FYI: There was no problem with simultaneous editing. I know the timeline. Mariano knew precisely what he was doing and he knew that it would upset me. Ditto for Pete Clark's unprovoked insults above and elsewhere. There was absolutely no need whatsoever for Pete L. Clark and Mariano Suárez-Alvarez to continue exercising their prior grudges in this forum. I took great care to avoid any tension in posts where we crossed paths here. Anyone can review my posts here and see that. I 'm very disappointed that the same courtesy was not returned. In any case now that this is all out in the open I hope that will be the end of it - forever.
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    For what it's worth, I second Scott. @Bill: I don't know what your relationship with Mariano is, but I don't see any evidence of malice on his part. You're not the only one who knows the timeline ... it's available for anybody to see:
    2010-07-18 15:25:17Z UTC. Mariano commits his change
    2010-07-18 15:25:38Z UTC. You commit a change (21 seconds later!)
    2010-07-18 15:34:56Z UTC. Mariano commits same change again

    It seems pretty clear to me that the two of you were editing simultaneously, which caused the confusion. Note that Mariano hasn't made any attempt to revert your rollback. Note also that Mariano's edit did not contribute to the conversion to CW. I really don't understand what there is to get worked up about.

    If you're really worried that somebody will edit one of your posts in a way you don't want, you can flag it for moderator attention, asking for it to be locked. To some extent, this will take it out of circulation. People won't be able to comment or vote on it--locking is meant as a tool to avoid flame wars. You won't be able to edit it either. I would reserve this for situations where there is an actual edit war.

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    @Anton: I see no such times listed at that link. But it doesn't matter anyhow. It's not the timing that matters but rather the intent - which is clear to me based on our prior history elsewhere.

    Again, I ask: do moderators condone Pete L. Clark's insult-laden rant above? Does high-rep grant insult privileges?
    • CommentAuthorjbl
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2010 edited
     
    Comment for Bill:
    Since you asked, yes, I think Mariano's behavior is completely reasonable, and I also think that you are acting hysterical. I repeat that if you don't want other people to edit your posts then you shouldn't participate in fora in which that is a realistic possibility.

    Comment for everyone except Bill:
    In my opinion it is clear that
    1) Mariano acted reasonably,
    2) Bill is acting unreasonably, and
    3) Bill is never going to agree with statements 1 or 2.
    It seems to me that further comments addressed to Bill that are based on the presumption that he will respond reasonably are unlikely to serve any productive purpose (unless "hosting ridiculous flame wars" is considered productive on meta). Instead, I think it would be nice if we (you) could work out a consensus about what should be done now. My suggestion is to close this thread and take to another thread any substantive discussion of technical issues.
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    I would just like to say that Mariano is among the most helpful people I've encountered on the entire internet (on IRC and here as well). It seems rather clear that he acted with no malice. Bill, your description doesn't ring true.

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    Per jbl's excellent solution, I am about to close this thread. Feel free to begin a new thread for any technical or policy questions which remain to be addressed!

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    By the way, if anyone is interested in exact timestamps in the edit history, hover your mouse over the where it says "answered yesterday" or similar, and a tooltip will pop up with the exact timestamp.

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