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The question: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/36185/create-djvu-from-jpeg-best-practices-and-tutorial has nothing to do with research mathematics as far as I can tell. I see no reason why mathematicians should be viewed as a particularly expert group for answering this type of question (of course, some mathematician may well be able to answer it, but that doesn't suffice for me). I've voted to close, but so far I appear to be the only one.
I was undecided about voting to close, but ultimately I think that I would not want to see this sort of question on MO. Even if it is of interest to some mathematicians, it is ultimately not about mathematics. I too have voted to close.
I voted to close because I don't want to set a bad precedent, and anyone who still wants to help can answer through the comments.
Noah: I am. Not about djvu in particular, or even about something a little more relevant to mathematicians' daily lives (like LaTeX questions), but questions where there is no expert present. Or rather, where there can be no expectation that an expert is present. There may well be many people on MO who know about djvu or LaTeX or bus routes through London, but if I ask about the best way from Hammersmith to Mornington Crescent then even if someone gives me an answer, I cannot have any expectation that their answer is going to be reliable.
Mathematics questions are completely different. As a mathematician, I know how to assess whether or not to believe another mathematician. I have lots of tools available to me and lots of ways to check any information that I receive here. So I can freely ask, knowing that I can assess the reliability of the answer. Indeed, unless I know before I ask how I will verify an answer then I should not ask it. This question does not fit that, and so - in my most humble opinion - it does not belong on MO.
That's my ultimate dividing line. As MO is for experts, the questions should be those that are answerable by those experts in the subject in which they have expertise, not in random snippets of knowledge that they might have picked up here or there.
(Incidentally, I see that I have failed to obey the protocol: I did not leave a comment on the original question linking to this discussion. I apologise for that omission.)
Should we be discussing how to deprive authors and publishers of possible sales?
Maybe publishers, because I don't think that authors of the maths books (budding) research mathematicians would be interested in stand to make a lot of money from their books.
But I think that this is not the point. I think that the question is not ultimately mathematical, and this is why in my opinion it is not appropriate to MO.
Shevek, your defense really has nothing to do with mathematics or mathematicians. It boils down to the claim that mathematicians are people, and lots of people are interested in acquiring books in digital form. "Of interest to mathematicians" should be understood to mean "of interested to mathematicians as mathematicians," not "of interest to mathematicians by virtue of being of interest to a very large class of people." For example, the question "How can I avoid misplacing my house keys?" would not be appropriate for math overflow, though undoubtedly it is a question that many of us would like to know the answer to.
Should we be discussing how to deprive authors and publishers of possible sales?
The way that books at the graduate level and beyond are published is pretty rotten. They offer a laughably small amount of the profits to the authors as royalty payments. It seems like a holdover from the days before the internet. The only books I would ever consider buying are those from the mathematical societies (AMS, EMS, SMF, etc.) or university presses, since at least the money is going to a good cause. Well, I guess I've bought books from springer a few times, but only because it's Bourbaki.
I, for one, wouldn't cry over the publishers' "lost sales". Just about the only mathematicians making real money from the sales of their mathematics books are the calculus textbook authors. Mathematics monographs publishers are so greedy these days that the authors are expected to hire a copy editor at their own expense, submit a publication-ready copy (hence no typesetting expense for the publisher), and pay themselves for the permission to use copyrighted illustrations. What do the authors get in return? A brand. Additional print runs even at major publishers such as Springer or CUP are of inferior quality due to the use of "on demand" technology, but are sold at full price. Allowing the author to forfeit any profits from the sales in exchange for a publisher's permission to freely distribute an electronic version of his work passes for being progressive. Publishing as a trade is just barely above the protection racket level.
Publishing as a trade is just barely above the protection racket level.
Well said. Is there anything that could be done?
@Joseph, out of curiosity: how much does it cost? What kind of images?
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