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As I said the querying process should be encapsulated in a process where the query goes through the states "inprogress", "inreview" and "released". So that there is time to edit and prepare the query as required. And so that people do not prematurely jump on ones other feet.
But this requires some technical means on MO side and some effort of the community. For example the rep points of a community member could be separated into two streams. Whether someone is a good teacher or whether someone is a good problem solver. This is not the same necessarely.
So what I am saying is not contradictory, when I am saying I am going to MO because I find something and when I am saying that I don't want that MO displays something. Since I would go to MO to find queries which are in state "released". And since I would start doing queries in mode "inprogress" which would initially not be visible to the outside.
May I kindly ask you again to close this thread and remove it. I am now pretty sure that this thread leads to absolutely nothing. Could you please also remove my 3 queries.
Thanks in Advance
May I kindly ask you again to close this thread and remove it. I am now pretty sure that this thread leads to absolutely nothing. Could you please also remove my 3 queries.
I won't delete this thread. Alex, for example, asked me not to. But I have deleted your three questions as you requested.
It sounds like the basic problem is that you want MO to be a place to formulate questions, rather than a place to post and answer already well-formulated questions. I disagree with this. I think formulating a question is something that should happen privately, or perhaps with help from a small group of people. While you're preparing a question, you can keep it on your hard drive, discuss it on your blog, or even bring it here to meta. By the time you post it to MO, you should have already worked on it.
I think of MO as a very busy expert who has agreed to help me out. I try to pose my question so that the expert can provide the most help with the least energy. If I haven't thought through the question, I'm wasting the expert's time and she will be angry with me.
@Anton: Please, please, stop provoking me, I can't stand baby talk about so called experts being angry. I dont want to be served by experts that invest the least energy. Nobody does this, when you go to a doctor you don't want fast food.
Since the questions do not exist anymore, this thread does not make any sense anymore. May I therefore kindly ask you for the last time to remove this thread. If Alex wants something to discuss with me he can mail me: janburse@fastmail.fm.
You are welcome to take topics from this thread to open new threads. Maybe you have observed that this thread had a multitude of topics, so its better to start all over individually.
But please consider this discussion as non existent anymore.
Best Regards
@janburse:
You're the one who's being unprofessional here...
@Ryan Budney, I had to respond since @Anton refused to close it. I am still begging to close this thread.
But you might have noticed that I want to close this thread, since this thread has a title that refers to an issue that does not exist anymore. The original purpose of this thread was to reopen some posed questions.
Since this is not possible on a multitude of reasons, which has now been settled, this thread should be closed. And in my opinion it should be deleted, since too many topics were intermingled, and to follow the different topics in the given format is difficult.
Best Regards
@Anton: Please, please, stop provoking me, I can't stand baby talk about so called experts being angry. I dont want to be served by experts that invest the least energy. Nobody does this, when you go to a doctor you don't want fast food.
If anyone is being provocative, it seems to be you. Experts do not want to be asked (told? ordered?) to "serve" people who mistake them for specialist motorcycle mechanics. Your attempted analogy with doctors is absurd: do you gatecrash reading clubs/groups and demand that they explain to you what is going on in The Sound And The Fury?
Put another way: we are sorry that MO does not cater to your exquisite taste or demand. It is not MO's job to do this. It may well be that it is not MO's wish to do this. It most emphatically is not MO's obligation to do this. If you need a consultant, or at the other extreme a serf, I wish you good luck in finding one.
do you gatecrash reading clubs/groups and demand that they explain to you what is going on in The Sound And The Fury?
Why do people always mention things that I've done when they're trying to explain how absurd some given behavior is?!
Since most of you are affiliated with an institution you already serve somebody and you are basically payed by the people on the street, via the money that flows in from the tax. To some extend experts are allowed to exercise some authorithy for example when grading students, but this is not the setting in research. When you are in research you are not acting with students, you are doing humble work for your institution, since it pays, and you should respect the other person.
If MO wants to keep its research label, it must change how it behaves, and be able to demonstrate that it uses best effort and not least effort. In my case MO failed to do this miserably.
I guess you're not familiar with the notion of academic freedom. In this situation, it means that you can bugger off if you're not willing to be polite and observe community rules and standards.
You can exercise academic freedom, but you must keep quality.
I think Ryan's last comment may well be right. I was trying to work out how best to respond to the incoherent invocation of "the man on the street who pays your taxes", but suffice it to say that if janburse is paying tax to all our respective provinces and countries then this demonstrates either untold wealth or a sub-optimal approach to household finance.
I think we should just stop feeding the troll, who clearly just enjoys his provocation and is completely incapable of introspection, which makes any sort of progress impossible.
I agree that this thread should probably be closed (although not feeding the troll is in my experience almost as efficient a way of getting rid of him), but I don't want it to be deleted, since linking to it might be a fast way of saying "oh, you don't know Jan Burse? Have a look here" in the future.
The figurative singular of "the man on the ..." is of course a plural. In economics you have the consumer. A lot depends on the consumer, for example tax input is dependent on consumer consumption via different factors VAT and industry revenue etc.. You can leave this thread undeleted if you want, I have really nothing to hide, now and in the future.
I am only keeping this thread a little bit alive since it allows me to get known to some of the experts who closed down my questions. I am not sure whether I will use this thread via linking as a future amunition. Since the thread is basically @ad hominem and the original topic really never could shine. I guess this is also the purpose of the thread. To get known to each other.
But closing is the best option, since in case you want to address me, you can do it here: janburse@fastmail.fm.
Okay, it sounds like everybody wants this thread closed.