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X: 'ello, I wish to register a complaint...
X: 'ello, miss.
Y: What do you mean "miss"?
X: {winces} I'm sorry, I've got a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
Y: We're closin' for lunch.
X: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not 'alf an hour ago from this very boutique.
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Also, the -2 refers to the number of points lost, not the number of votes cast.
Oh, Harry, you are a card!
MikeBlackmon, To convince regular readers of meta/mathoverflow of Harry's immaturity it is not necessary to do anything. Better to see him as a sort of running joke and not take anything he says too personally. He has been suspended several times for bad behavior on the main site, but here on meta it seems more latitude is given.
Dear Michael,
It is completely disgraceful to drag this private issue out to a professional forum for everyone to see. We both have logs, and I suggest that you take a look to see what precipitated any sort of event yesterday. I urge the MOderators to lock and delete this topic, since the user in general just wants to cover MO in his dirty laundry.
Dear Storkle,
Apparently my reference went over your head. I suggest that you educate yourself. I have acted with grace... grace and tact... grace, tact, and honor... (our three weapons...)
Harry: while I am not sure that keeping this thread open would be worthwhile, I think it is unfair of you to attribute motives to Michael beyond concern/frustration, whatever the rights or wrongs of the situation.
Storkle: I am not sure if anyone has been suspended from meta.MO (but perhaps someone can come along and tell me).
Michael: I would follow Francois' suggestion and email the moderators.
Harry: put a lid on it, please.
@Yemon: I didn't say anything!
@Mike: I agree that you should contact the moderators. To provide some context (and explain Storkle's comment a little), Harry caused an enormous amount of trouble in the early days of MO. It got better in some respects, but those who were here during that time no longer have the mental energy for incidents involving Harry.
To all:
Either come on IRC and be a part of this other community, or reserve judgement. Mr. Blackmon is not to be taken at his word. Please hold yourselves back.
Dear Qiaochu,
I respectfully ask that you reconsider your previous post and reserve judgement. I have neither said nor done anything so far in this meta thread that is in any way disrespectful. Apparently, as only Todd noticed, my first comment was added simply due to the part of Mr. Blackmon's comment where it is mentioned that he "would like to make a complaint". The other part of my comment was explaining to Mr. Blackmon that I do not have two accounts, just that he misread the display.
Dear Yemon,
Regarding Mr. Blackmon's motives, I tried to contact him via IRC earlier this morning, after he posted his comment here. My messages were ignored. If there was any question that Mr. Blackmon wanted to use this as an excuse to try to embarrass me, it was answered when he decided to ignore my messages.
MO is not for settling scores, and I hope that you will apply the same standards to both myself and Mr. Blackmon.
Harry, I think my comment is sensible regardless of the details of whatever happened between the two of you, and I do not read it as "support" for Michael except insofar as he, like any other member of MO, has a right to contact the moderators to address grievances. (I am willing to reword my response slightly.) Also, I have no idea what the name of the MO IRC channel is; I have looked for it before on meta but couldn't find it.
This is not an MO IRC channel, which makes things more absurd. That's why this doesn't belong here.
Regarding the wording of your post, I take issue with the assumption that I have done something wrong. I have not.
Michael believes that you targeted his posts for downvoting, so I would argue that (insofar as Michael was not aware that SOP is to contact the moderators) this was a reasonable question to ask. I have reworded the first post.
Dear Qiaochu, I see which posts I downvoted (there are three).
Number 1, which, as you can see, displays a complete misunderstanding of how category theory works. It is argumentative and linked to an IRC discussion where Mr. Blackmon was trying to make some kind of point that category theory is completely useless as a tool and a language.
are questions that I voted down because I did not find them interesting.
That's it. That's the extent of my "downvoting spree".
I should note that Mr. Blackmon has voted down my question about Vopenka's principle (as well as my question about pushouts of fully faithful V-functors (the answer is nontrivial even in the case V=Set (the pushout of categories is quite complicated and related to the amalgamation of two groups (although substantially more complicated), so you should vote it up!)).
Do other people downvote questions that are not interesting to them? I only downvote questions that are inappropriate. I upvote the questions I like or that I think would be interesting to a lot of people. If you don't care about a particular question, but it is appropriate for MO, then just don't vote on it at all. If we all did that, the appropriate (but uninteresting) questions would have low, but non-negative scores.
A noble goal, but apparently that's not how things work on MO. I regularly receive downvotes on questions because people think that they are not interesting (either that or they don't like me, I dunno!). I vote for other people's questions the way people vote on my questions.
I have neither said nor done anything so far in this meta thread that is in any way disrespectful.
This is false. You may as well be saying, "I'm not touching you; you can't get mad." Your first post seems to be a (partially successful) attempt to derail the thread and belittle Mike's concerns. At best, it was intended as pure noise, which is already disrespectful. I don't have access to the IRC logs, but based solely on this thread, Mike is rightly frustrated with you and his assertion that you're being "vindictive, manipulative, and immature" is supported.
I expect leaving this thread open is unlikely to generate any light, but is likely to generate heat, so I'm closing it. If anybody has something to add, email moderators@mathoverflow.net. If there's something in this thread that you think would make for a productive discussion, feel free to start a new thread.
I've made a cursory inspection of the logs, and find no evidence of sockpuppet downvoting again Michael Blackmon. Harry's claim above about his downvoting activity seems to be essentially accurate, barring the omission of some voting on community-wiki posts.
I would prefer to close this thread, as it doesn't appear to have produced anything productive whatsoever, expect perhaps, to give François, and now me, the opportunity to reiterate the moderators plea:
If you have a complaint about an individual user on MathOverflow, please contact the moderators directly via moderators@mathoverflow.net
I think this thread makes abundantly clear why we prefer this over meta threads.
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