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From time to time, people think it's a good idea to go and vote down a large swath of someone else's posts. This is not a legitimate use of the voting system, and I think that, like convenience stores, which keep pictures of attempted shoplifters behind the counter, we should make it public whenever somebody does this.
That is, we should have a public "stocks", where people's names would be made public for abusing the system. To avoid starting fights, it would be fine if the person's "crime" was kept hidden.
@Andy: This wouldn't be for voting down once or twice. I get things like six votes down in the course of ten minutes. I'm sure that the following two things are true: It happens to people other than me, and also, the moderators would be very happy if they didn't have to get e-mails about this kind of thing.
These are just people who have some kind of gear to grind and are just being spiteful.
What if instead of the "stocks", we called it a "rogues' gallery"?
Haha. I now have fourteen downvotes over the course of the two hours. Somebody's got a gear to grind..
I suspect that there are two people working in collusion with one another.
Haha, since a lot of my old material is community wiki'd for various reasons, now they're just downvoting all of my posts in order, and when they hit one that I failed to CW, I get an indicator in my score.
I hope that the moderators will suspend this person/group of people.
The current count is 15
I'm not even mad. I'm just giggling that people would bother to click through all of my questions to vote them down one at a time.
@Andy: Sure, but when someone else gets suspended, most people know why it happened because it happened in public. People engage in this kind of nonsense with voting because they know that they will face few to no actual consequences (such behavior does not usually result in anything more than a warning). I should also note that people who vote like that are very likely not regular participants here, so I suspect that suspensions (even if they were carried out) would be an effective way of controlling this kind of stuff.
Meanwhile, whoever voted up four of my posts, I appreciate the gesture. Thanks.
@Andy: I guess you have information to which I'm not privy? I won't press you for more details, then. =)
@Noah: I don't agree that this thread is completely unnecessary. I still stand behind my idea of putting people who tried to abuse their anonymity in the spotlight. As you said, the punishment should fit the crime.
I also think that it's one of the few offenses on MO that has real malicious intent. I don't think that could be said for very many other "crimes", as it were.
Edit: He's at it again. The current count is 18 that I can see (not counting CW). I think that there must be more than one person involved.
I largely agree with Noah's comment. While it may be annoying for the person being downvoted, I think that this is best left to behind-the-scenes moderation (with appropriate consultation of the downvotee).
YC's rule of thumb: it is impossible to stop people who want to BACAI from BACAI (I hope that the acronym, while a signifier for something NSFW, is not unduly offensive to people here; I plead North-East English idiom). The best one can do is to corral such people and minimize their effect.
@nielkj: but don't you get it? If Harry improves his behavior because of downvotes, the terrorists have won.
In all seriousness, this is something only the moderators can address anyway, since they're the ones with access to the right information. If you wanted to suggest punishments, you could've suggested them to the moderators first.
Indeed, Harry did suggest exactly this to the moderators. We didn't respond immediately (I have more important things happening this week!), but there's a steady stream of emails going on in the background. We'll eventually do something, and if anyone feels they need to know exactly what we do they should email us asking.
You could've suggested them to the moderators first.
You could've spoken too soon.
Oh well!
Dear Thierry,
I'm not worried about the points (first off, 15 voted down questions is 30 points, which even a nonmathematician could gain in a day, provided he already read the FAQ, but second off I don't actually care anyway). The point is that someone is voting down my posts etc as a way of intimidating me anonymously. If a tenured professor receives a string of downvotes, it doesn't really matter. When an undergraduate or even graduate student receives a large number of votes down like that, it definitely seems reasonable to me for him to be frightened about how the community perceives him. The desired effect is an effort to intimidate that student into leaving Math Overflow.
If an MO user wants to "run someone out of town", I think that he or she should be forced to at least make such efforts public.
Harry, you've been told so many times by so many people (who have signed their names) that you are embarrassing yourself and trashing your reputation, I can't imagine that anyone thinks a few downvotes will convince you. At this point, it would be rather extraordinary if you weren't concerned about how the community perceives you. I regard it as a lot more likely that the people downvoting you are doing it to piss you off, and they seem to be getting exactly what they want. In fact, at least one person started downvoting your posts after you started complaining on meta.
As a general comment: it's been said before, but I'll say it again. If you think someone is downvoting you inappropriately, email the moderators, we will investigate, and do our best to deal with it. As Scott points out, we have lives and may not do so instantly, but we will. We take inappropriate downvoting seriously, and have already handed out suspensions in connection with this incident. Keep in mind that as with any trolling behavior, responding publicly is the worst thing you can do, as it just gives satisfaction to whoever is doing it.
@Daniel
super-discretely
A topologist suggesting a discrete approach? Madness! ;)
@nielkj: I think I speak for mathoverflow when I say "don't encourage me"...
@Will: It is my favorite misspelling after "principle bundle", meaning "a principle that varies with a parameter".
@nielkj: Come on, you've gotta make me work for it. It's no fun when it's intentional!
@Harry: of course, a cor. is the definition "a politician P is defined to be a principle bundle over a base manifold C, which we call the constituency", and sometimes the letter D is used for the base manifold, short for donors.
It seems this thread has turned into a series of jokes. Is it serving a purpose any longer? If not, I vote to close.
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